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Posted: Aug 26, 2018 - 9:08am


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Posted: Aug 25, 2018 - 9:47pm


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Posted: Aug 25, 2018 - 7:15am

If Obama had done even a tenth of what Donnie has, there would have been riots in the streets.
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Posted: Aug 24, 2018 - 12:29pm

 kcar wrote:


 cc_rider wrote:

The Weisselberg story broke awhile back, he could provide the smoking gun for the whole shebang. Since he was granted immunity, you know he's got some great dirt.
c.
 

From the CNN piece:


At the time, a former Trump Organization employee told CNN that Weisselberg being subpoenaed was the "ultimate nightmare scenario for Trump" because Weisselberg knows "anything and everything" about the finances of the Trump Organization.

 
yep ya wanna know anything about someone, ask their bookkeeper
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Posted: Aug 24, 2018 - 12:22pm



 cc_rider wrote:

The Weisselberg story broke awhile back, he could provide the smoking gun for the whole shebang. Since he was granted immunity, you know he's got some great dirt.
c.


 

From the CNN piece:


At the time, a former Trump Organization employee told CNN that Weisselberg being subpoenaed was the "ultimate nightmare scenario for Trump" because Weisselberg knows "anything and everything" about the finances of the Trump Organization.


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Posted: Aug 24, 2018 - 11:43am

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2018/08/23/donald-trump-jeff-sessions-justice-department-war-219592

Trump’s long war with justice
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Posted: Aug 24, 2018 - 11:06am

The President Sounds Like a Mob Boss

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Posted: Aug 24, 2018 - 9:58am

Looking at Donnie's tweetstream, what he's not spewing about recently speaks volumes.
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Posted: Aug 24, 2018 - 9:52am

UnNews:Trump given a Russian bodyguard
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Posted: Aug 24, 2018 - 9:49am



 Red_Dragon wrote:
 

“Trust the plan. Trust there are more good than bad.”


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Posted: Aug 24, 2018 - 9:19am

 Red_Dragon wrote: 
The Weisselberg story broke awhile back, he could provide the smoking gun for the whole shebang. Since he was granted immunity, you know he's got some great dirt.
c.


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Posted: Aug 24, 2018 - 9:15am

 Red_Dragon wrote: 
Where is Rudy??????  I picture him duck taped in a back room somewhere, 
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Posted: Aug 24, 2018 - 9:03am

The end must be near; the rats are fleeing the sinking ship at an accelerated rate...
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Posted: Aug 24, 2018 - 6:40am

family of greedy hate-mongers  (and lovely hair stylists : )
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Trump
Fred Trump.png

The development company was incorporated as Elizabeth Trump & Son in 1927, and grew to build and manage single-family houses in Queens, barracks and garden apartments for U.S. Navy personnel near major shipyards along the East Coast, and more than 27,000 apartments in New York City.<2><3>

On Memorial Day in 1927, the Ku Klux Klan marched in Queens to protest "Native-born Protestant Americans" being "assaulted by Roman Catholic police of New York City".<18> Fred was one of seven men arrested that day "on a charge of refusing to disperse from a parade when ordered to do so,"<18> as reported in a New York Times article on June 1, 1927. He shared lawyers with the other men, but "it's conceivable that he may have been an innocent bystander, falsely named, or otherwise the victim of mistaken identity during or following a chaotic event."<19> He was "released without charges", but Vice Magazine noted that the KKK had gone through a revival in urban areas after 1915.<20> All seven men arrested were declared to be wearing Klan attire in one source cited in the Vice article, which noted: "While the Long Island Daily Pressdoesn't mention Fred Trump specifically ... the article refers to all of the arrestees as 'berobed marchers.' If Fred Trump, or another one of the attendees, wasn't dressed in a robe at the time, that may have been a reporting error worth correcting."<20> When asked about the issue in September 2015 by The New York TimesDonald Trump, then a candidate for presidency of the United States, denied that his father had been arrested or that he had been in the KKK.<21>

 

 Trump was investigated by a U.S. Senate committee for profiteering in 1954.<4> He made Donald the president of Trump Management Co. in 1971,<5> and they were sued by the U.S. Justice Department's Civil Rights Division for violating the Civil Rights Act in 1973.<6>

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Posted: Aug 24, 2018 - 6:39am

 steeler wrote:
Trump, in my opinion, has been sending out trial balloons for a pardon of Manafort, calling him a "good" and "brave" man and decrying his prosecution and convictions for tax evasion and bank fraud as "sad" and a "disgrace."

Putting aside, for the moment,  those convictions:  what has this man done in his life that  makes him worthy of praise?  Seems to me that he spent his life accumulating wealth, which he has earned as a political consultant and lobbyist.  He may be very good at those jobs, and there's nothing inherently wrong with pursuing vast amounts of wealth for one's own benefit, but to make him out as if he were some kind of hero/victim/martyr?  Remember, this guy, as the New York Times stated in an editorial,  "enriched himself by working for some of the world’s most notorious thugs and autocrats, including Ferdinand Marcos in the Philippines, Jonas Savimbi in Angola and Mobutu Sese Seko of Zaire (now called the Democratic Republic of Congo). He helped elect the pro-Kremlin Viktor Yanukovych as president of Ukraine, a job that earned him millions until Mr. Yanukovych was ousted from power in 2014."

Then add this week's convictions to his resume. 

 

 
Good = Staying loyal to Trump by not cooperating with the prosecution to turn on Trump and cut a deal.

 

Plain and simple.


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Posted: Aug 24, 2018 - 4:57am

 cc_rider wrote:
 No doubt. The policy is wrong-headed for a lot of very good reasons, but 'taking stuff from the white folks' is not one.
c.

 
Turns out the part about "killing farmers" is typical right-wing tin-foil hat stuff...
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Posted: Aug 24, 2018 - 4:54am

 kcar wrote:
This. Thank you. Kurtster, if you're reading this post, Steely_D's post neatly summarizes the frustration and confusion many opponents of Trump feel towards Trump's supporters. But here's one of the dirty secrets in politics: voters often take positions that are not in their best economic or political interests.


i think that's correct (i blame unreason {#Wink} )

also peeps remember the (exit) polling data posted here after the election? (may have been from 538, i can't recall)

when asked whether they were casting a vote for or against the candidate there was an almost identical split

of the people voting for trump almost half were just voting against clinton and vice versa

which shouldn't surprise us if we think about it

the more objective we are we see the choice(s) are often framed "the lesser of the two evils"

pick your poison

of course none of this would be an issue if we _______________



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Posted: Aug 24, 2018 - 4:40am

idiot wind, blowing every time you move your mouth
blowing down the back-roads heading south
idiot wind, blowing every time you move your teeth
you're an idiot, babe
it's a wonder that you still know how to breathe


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Posted: Aug 23, 2018 - 6:43pm

 Steely_D wrote:

Agree. Obviously was being flip.

I'm figuring that if someone has a long-term view of capitalism, it would include the health of its long term customers and workers, otherwise it's doomed to eventually become impossible to sustain. So a short-term view would be "how do I make the most money" (which was my leetle joke) but a bigger view wouldn't include raping the environment, denying healthcare, or pissing off the bottom half of the earning curve so that they want to take you down. That kind of capitalism is impossible to sustain in the long run.

Trump, et al, seems to be concerned about filling up their coffers right now at the expense of the folks they talked into voting for them. But really, what did they give them? Better tax laws? Nope. Better drug costs? Nope. A big beautiful wall that Mexico pays for? Nope. Repeal & replace Obamacare with something better? Nope.

But, Trump and his family and friends did succeed in getting richer through not divesting from his businesses, from others' stays at Trump businesses for government business (or the hope of government favors), through multinational deals that stank of nepotism, through environmental roll backs that hurt people's health but allow polluting businesses more latitude, through chaotic health care changes that keep insurance companies highly profitable, and through tax laws that favored the very rich. And probably by striking personally lucrative deals with the enemies of the USA.

So, Trump and his cohorts are absolutely wallowing in capitalism - but self-serving, selfish, and ultimately destructive to our nation. And, to circle back around, he sees that as "good." After all, he's winning.

Who loses?

 

{#Clap}


This. Thank you. Kurtster, if you're reading this post, Steely_D's post neatly summarizes the frustration and confusion many opponents of Trump feel towards Trump's supporters. But here's one of the dirty secrets in politics: voters often take positions that are not in their best economic or political interests.

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Posted: Aug 23, 2018 - 5:08pm

 haresfur wrote:

It doesn't have to be that way. Many countries have well regulated capitalist economies that address the systemic moral failing. If someone truly believes that business decisions should only be based on the ability to make money then it is necessary to provide a framework to manage the externalities to that system. Think of it like having the baseball rule that the pitcher can't intentionally bean the batter in the head.

But aside from that, the premise is flawed and is used by too many to hide their immorality in a cloak of amorality.

 
Agree. Obviously was being flip.

I'm figuring that if someone has a long-term view of capitalism, it would include the health of its long term customers and workers, otherwise it's doomed to eventually become impossible to sustain. So a short-term view would be "how do I make the most money" (which was my leetle joke) but a bigger view wouldn't include raping the environment, denying healthcare, or pissing off the bottom half of the earning curve so that they want to take you down. That kind of capitalism is impossible to sustain in the long run.

Trump, et al, seems to be concerned about filling up their coffers right now at the expense of the folks they talked into voting for them. But really, what did they give them? Better tax laws? Nope. Better drug costs? Nope. A big beautiful wall that Mexico pays for? Nope. Repeal & replace Obamacare with something better? Nope.

But, Trump and his family and friends did succeed in getting richer through not divesting from his businesses, from others' stays at Trump businesses for government business (or the hope of government favors), through multinational deals that stank of nepotism, through environmental roll backs that hurt people's health but allow polluting businesses more latitude, through chaotic health care changes that keep insurance companies highly profitable, and through tax laws that favored the very rich. And probably by striking personally lucrative deals with the enemies of the USA.

So, Trump and his cohorts are absolutely wallowing in capitalism - but self-serving, selfish, and ultimately destructive to our nation. And, to circle back around, he sees that as "good." After all, he's winning.

Who loses?


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