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kurtster

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Posted: Sep 22, 2017 - 6:25pm

Lets have some fun going back in time ... starting in February when I first made remarks about Obama spying / wiretapping Trump, before Trump even mentioned it.

kurtster wrote:

Posted: Feb 16, 2017 - 12:08pm

islander wrote:

I'm surprised the Russia stuff isn't getting more play. This is seriously treasonous stuff. It looks very much like his campaign collaborated with a hostile foreign power. Where are the "law and order" Republicans? Beyond McCain and Graham, there is a lot of silence on the matter. I think they are hoping that it will blow over, which is nearly as bad. This is party before country. Where is Kurtster and the strong border contingent? We want a wall to keep the latinos out because some tiny contingent might figure out a way to vote, but it's just dandy for Russia to interfere with our elections?

I don't know what you're looking at but the Russia stuff is all over the place. Can't not see it. So much so that the way its being pushed, the only way Trump can redeem himself would be to declare war on Russia to prove he is not a Russian agent. Is that what it would take and nothing less ?

Yeah, I want to see the leaks investigated. I want to see the reports from Obama's spying on Trump during the campaign. I want to see it all. I want to see any bureaucrats who did the leaking or conducted illegal wire taps put in jail. And if there was any misconduct by the candidates revealed in these reports, I want to see that addressed as well.

Yeah, I want heads to roll. Let it all hang out. With what has come out so far, there are no national secrets left to protect and hide behind so as not to have a full and total disclosure of these transcripts.

And yeah, I still have a big problem with Comey. Something really wrong there, imo.

and then to March when Trump first made the claim that he was wire tapped.

... wrote: Posted: Mar 5, 2017

Even Comey says Donnie is full of it...

... wrote: Posted: Mar 5, 2017

Based on intel from Breitbart...

He's unhinged.

“There was no such wiretap activity mounted against the president-elect at the time, or as a candidate or against his campaign,” former Director of National Intelligence James Clapper, who left his post at the end of Obama’s term in office in January, said on NBC’s “Meet the Press.”

Under U.S. law, a federal court would have to have found probable cause that the target of the surveillance is an “agent of a foreign power” in order to approve a warrant authorizing electronic surveillance of Trump Tower.

Asked whether there was such a court order, Clapper said, “I can deny it.”

... wrote: Posted: Mar 14, 2017

How can anyone believe anything these people say?
It's not the lying. It's the arrogant, blatant, careless frequency of it. Every single time they open their mouths they say something demonstrably false. The lie all. the. time. And they don't care, because they know the fools who put them in power will believe them. We are lost.

... wrote: Posted: Mar 17, 2017

Sadly, articles like this are very easy to find.

Why is the Trump presidency such a rolling disaster?

(includes more stuff about Trump's wire tap claims as being ridiculous)

That's enough to get an idea and I can't open up anymore WAPO articles because of cookies.

So we've had Comey, Clapper and Brennan all deny on the record in front of Congress and all over the media in print and TV that there was absolutely no FISA or FBI wiretaps or surveillance being conducted at Trump Tower or on Trump or any member of Trump's campaign, at any time. And all three of them claimed that they would know if any of things were happening. And that was up until a couple of weeks ago.

So many based all kinds of criticism of Trump and supporters who dared challenge these Intelligence Chiefs at their word, which all took as gospel proof that Trump was stark raving mad. We now know that everyone of them was lying through their teeth.

We are now coming to find out about the most Nixonian thing that has ever happened since Watergate and much worse on scale and depth. Every Intel agency was involved in spying on Trump for political purposes under the guise of "National Security". This is one of the most egregious abuses of power that has happened in my lifetime. It piggybacks on the IRS abuse of the Tea Party groups during the 2012 elections. Its been out for nearly a week now and not one word has been mentioned here other than my little attempt to bring it up with a little remark the other day that was ignored and passed by.

kurtster wrote:

That's just as delusional as Trump saying he was wire tapped.

Clapper: "Possible" That Trump Was Recorded On Manafort Wiretap, "Conceivable"
Anything goes as long as it nullifies Trump's election and gets him either obstructed or removed from office. Its ok for our government to spy on its perceived political opponents as long as it's the other guy and not your guy or gal. That's what I see and that's what I think.

How about if Trump did this to Hillary ? The howling would be immediate, unrelenting and deafening.

And this is just the beginning. We have all of the unmasking of Trump campaign personnel in FISA authorized wiretaps that's just now coming to light, which were denied to exist as well. No Deep State ? Right ...

Now ? Nothing but crickets. Its ok, cuz it was done to Trump.

Have a good evening.

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Posted: Sep 22, 2017 - 5:54pm
buddy wrote: ...and the walls came tumbling down...

kurtster

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Posted: Sep 22, 2017 - 3:36pm
islander wrote: I liked it better when you tried to mask your trolling as some misguided belief. Since pleasing you is my number one priority in life, you might like this more ... definitely heavier than a golf club ...

islander

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Posted: Sep 22, 2017 - 1:10pm
kurtster wrote: I liked it better when you tried to mask your trolling as some misguided belief.

Steely_D

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Posted: Sep 22, 2017 - 12:55pm
Red_Dragon wrote: oh, for fuck's sake

kurtster

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Posted: Sep 22, 2017 - 12:41pm
Lazy8 wrote: Show me a picture of Donald Trump picking up anything heavier than a golf club.

aflanigan

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Posted: Sep 22, 2017 - 10:06am
Lazy8 wrote: kurtster wrote: I guess he eventually learned on the job, because this is not how you hold a shovel when digging a hole. Show me a picture of Donald Trump picking up anything heavier than a golf club. Definitely not one to pick up a tab on a date, that's for sure.

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Posted: Sep 22, 2017 - 8:31am
kurtster wrote: I guess he eventually learned on the job, because this is not how you hold a shovel when digging a hole. Show me a picture of Donald Trump picking up anything heavier than a golf club.

aflanigan

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Posted: Sep 22, 2017 - 7:40am
kurtster wrote: Well we know that Obama would lose in knowing what a shovel ready project is for openers. And that was one of the foundations of his campaign. I bet that he still doesn't know, let alone what a shovel is and how to use one. Like I figured, unwilling to back your BS with cold hard cash. SSDD.

Red_Dragon

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Posted: Sep 22, 2017 - 4:13am
oh, for fuck's sake

kurtster

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Posted: Sep 22, 2017 - 4:07am
Steely_D wrote: Regardless of that first part, there are plenty of photos of Obama knowing what a shovel is and using it correctly. I guess he eventually learned on the job, because this is not how you hold a shovel when digging a hole.

BlueHeronDruid

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Posted: Sep 21, 2017 - 11:43pm
islander wrote: I wonder if he used a thesaurus? Lil' Kim: "quick give me some obscure words, let's make him go look up half my speech". dotard n."imbecile," late 14c., from dote + -ard. Word's been around for a while. 45 would never have heard of it. It's in books, you know.

islander

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Posted: Sep 21, 2017 - 10:20pm
ScottFromWyoming wrote: I'm tempted to laugh but it is interesting. I wonder if he used a thesaurus? Lil' Kim: "quick give me some obscure words, let's make him go look up half my speech".

ScottFromWyoming

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Posted: Sep 21, 2017 - 10:04pm
R_P wrote: Dotard sounds so modern with all the other tards... I'm tempted to laugh but it is interesting.

Steely_D

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Posted: Sep 21, 2017 - 5:44pm

kurtster wrote:

Well we know that Obama would lose in knowing what a shovel ready project is for openers. And that was one of the foundations of his campaign. I bet that he still doesn't know, let alone what a shovel is and how to use one.

Regardless of that first part, there are plenty of photos of Obama knowing what a shovel is and using it correctly.
Is using a shovel what's more valuable than being able to have an intelligent discussion/debate?
Dealing with the current President (he won; get over it) there's this concern:

Trump's failure to fill energy panel is stalling shovel-ready projects

And here he is with his wife...wait...daughter...with their GOLD PLATED SHOVELS. And folks wanted him because he's one of them?

R_P

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Posted: Sep 21, 2017 - 5:22pm
Dotard sounds so modern with all the other tards...

kurtster

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Posted: Sep 21, 2017 - 4:40pm
aflanigan wrote: Any time you want to put money on a mental showdown between Donald and Obama, or even Dubya, for that matter, please reach out to me first. Seriously. Well we know that Obama would lose in knowing what a shovel ready project is for openers. And that was one of the foundations of his campaign. I bet that he still doesn't know, let alone what a shovel is and how to use one.

Steely_D

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Posted: Sep 21, 2017 - 4:04pm

R_P

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Posted: Sep 21, 2017 - 3:44pm
Trumpisms

Steely_D

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Posted: Sep 21, 2017 - 3:25pm
aflanigan wrote: Any time you want to put money on a mental showdown between Donald and Obama, or even Dubya, for that matter, please reach out to me first. Seriously. Make sure to forbid teleprompters. Remember how Obama couldn't make a speech without one. Let's make sure he doesn't have that unfair advantage! Sad!

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