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Red_Dragon

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Posted: Jul 31, 2017 - 5:07pm

Trump Says No ‘Chaos!’ at White House but Continues Threats

steeler

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Posted: Jul 31, 2017 - 4:47pm

 miamizsun wrote:

or maybe they voted for the lesser of two evils

i thought i saw where like 50% of the voters polled admitting to voting against the other candidate

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edit: this is from slate so it has to be true

Here’s the breakdown among likely Trump voters:

screen_shot_20160506_at_6.14.22_am

And among likely Clinton voters:

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What this says to me is that those who assess their candidates on whether they like them or not outweigh those who are assessing the policy positions of those candidates. it is the selling of the President on steroids, and it inevitably ends up where we are now — the electing of a President as reality TV. Here we are now! Entertain us!


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Posted: Jul 31, 2017 - 3:05pm

 Steely_D wrote:
I voted John Anderson.
I voted Ralph Nader.
I voted Jill Stein.

And I repeat: candidates of any party tell their voters "I'm not one of them; I'm here for you." That's exactly what Trump said, although a bit less eloquently, and why people voted for him and not Hillary.
 
or maybe they voted for the lesser of two evils

i thought i saw where like 50% of the voters polled admitting to voting against the other candidate

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edit: this is from slate so it has to be true

Here’s the breakdown among likely Trump voters:

screen_shot_20160506_at_6.14.22_am

And among likely Clinton voters:

screen_shot_20160506_at_6.15.29_am




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Posted: Jul 31, 2017 - 2:24pm

 LowPhreak wrote:

No it isn't. What got us into this mess was continuing to put faith in the corrupt two-party (one party) system, including Sanders and Trump. How many of you did not vote 3rd party because "they don't have a chance to win"? How many of you voted for say, Ralph Nader when he ran (who never took a dime from corporations or the like) either in the primaries or in the general election?
 
I voted John Anderson.
I voted Ralph Nader.
I voted Jill Stein.

And I repeat: candidates of any party tell their voters "I'm not one of them; I'm here for you." That's exactly what Trump said, although a bit less eloquently, and why people voted for him and not Hillary.


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Posted: Jul 31, 2017 - 2:21pm

 kurtster wrote:
So other than Putin, just who exactly is Trump beholden to ?  

Which oligarchs bought and paid for Trump along the way during his campaign ?  

Soros, the Koch brothers ?  Surely this is an easy question to answer.

 
Hint: he has orange skin and bad hair. That is the only person that Trump is helping.
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Posted: Jul 31, 2017 - 12:48pm

 Lazy8 wrote:

He should take his time. I, for one, am totally fine with chaos and dysfunction when it comes to implementing his agenda.

 
 yep.. 
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Posted: Jul 31, 2017 - 12:39pm


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Posted: Jul 31, 2017 - 12:36pm

 ScottFromWyoming wrote:



 
 You are en fuego today!  {#Dance}
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Posted: Jul 31, 2017 - 12:35pm

 Lazy8 wrote:
 VV wrote:
Huh? You're willing to wait indefinitely for zero returns? Remind me to never listen to stock tips from you.

Yes, history tells us the best presidencies were always mired in dysfunction. {#Rolleyes}

Yes. Zero is not the lowest number in a down market.

The best presidencies had the best presidents. Nothing is never the worst thing that could happen.

 
I guess if you set the bar low enough... even Trump might be able to slink over it.
Red_Dragon

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Posted: Jul 31, 2017 - 12:34pm

 ScottFromWyoming wrote:



 
{#Lol}
ScottFromWyoming

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Posted: Jul 31, 2017 - 12:33pm

 Red_Dragon wrote:
He lasted ten days.

Total chaos. {#Roflol}

 

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Posted: Jul 31, 2017 - 12:33pm

 VV wrote:
Huh? You're willing to wait indefinitely for zero returns? Remind me to never listen to stock tips from you.

Yes, history tells us the best presidencies were always mired in dysfunction. {#Rolleyes}

Yes. Zero is not the lowest number in a down market.

The best presidencies had the best presidents. Nothing is never the worst thing that could happen.
VV

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Posted: Jul 31, 2017 - 12:29pm

 Lazy8 wrote:
 VV wrote:
I knew he wasn't going to last as long as Renice or Spicy... but WOW what a start to yet another dysfunctional week for Trump. He beat Flynn's record and I thought that would be tough to do. Renice & Sean must certainly be laughing their asses off. The wreckage of the Trump administration continues to pile up.

Poor Mooch... we hardly knew ye.

When is Trump going to start hiring the "best" people for his administration anyway?

He should take his time. I, for one, am totally fine with chaos and dysfunction when it comes to implementing his agenda.

 
Huh? You're willing to wait indefinitely for zero returns? Remind me to never listen to stock tips from you. In the meantime, he demeans and lessens the office while presiding over a West Wing no-holds-barred cage match in which most of his staff is engaged. 

Yes, history tells us the best presidencies were always mired in dysfunction. {#Rolleyes}


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Posted: Jul 31, 2017 - 12:15pm

 VV wrote:
I knew he wasn't going to last as long as Renice or Spicy... but WOW what a start to yet another dysfunctional week for Trump. He beat Flynn's record and I thought that would be tough to do. Renice & Sean must certainly be laughing their asses off. The wreckage of the Trump administration continues to pile up.

Poor Mooch... we hardly knew ye.

When is Trump going to start hiring the "best" people for his administration anyway?

He should take his time. I, for one, am totally fine with chaos and dysfunction when it comes to implementing his agenda.
Red_Dragon

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Posted: Jul 31, 2017 - 12:15pm

 steeler wrote:

He never should have been in that position.  No background in it whatsoever, no credentials for it.  Besides, he is an asshat . . . maybe that was the credential?      

 
The whole administration is a complete clusterfuck and an embarrassment to humanity.
steeler

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Posted: Jul 31, 2017 - 12:12pm

 VV wrote:

I knew he wasn't going to last as long as Renice or Spicy... but WOW what a start to yet another dysfunctional week for Trump. Renice & Sean must certainly be laughing their asses off. The wreckage of the Trump administration continues to pile up.

Poor Mooch... we hardly knew ye.

When is Trump going to start hiring the "best" people for his administration anyway?

 
He never should have been in that position.  No background in it whatsoever, no credentials for it.  Besides, he is an asshat . . . maybe that was the credential?      

Edit:  There are 3 primary categories of appointees to high positions in this administration:  Generals.  Wall Street types.  Family members.  Credentials for the position one is assuming are not necessarily required. See Jared Kushner and solving the Middle East problems.     


VV

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Posted: Jul 31, 2017 - 11:59am

 Red_Dragon wrote:
He lasted ten days.

Total chaos. {#Roflol}

 
I knew he wasn't going to last as long as Renice or Spicy... but WOW what a start to yet another dysfunctional week for Trump. He beat Flynn's record and I thought that would be tough to do. Renice & Sean must certainly be laughing their asses off. The wreckage of the Trump administration continues to pile up.

Poor Mooch... we hardly knew ye.

When is Trump going to start hiring the "best" people for his administration anyway?


Red_Dragon

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Posted: Jul 31, 2017 - 11:52am

He lasted ten days.

Total chaos. {#Roflol}
VV

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Posted: Jul 31, 2017 - 10:51am

 LowPhreak wrote:

No it isn't. What got us into this mess was continuing to put faith in the corrupt two-party (one party) system, including Sanders and Trump. How many of you did not vote 3rd party because "they don't have a chance to win"? How many of you voted for say, Ralph Nader when he ran (who never took a dime from corporations or the like) either in the primaries or in the general election? I use Nader as an example since he has more accomplishments on his resume that helped the country than any 20 politicians together you can name - and he's never held a political office. He is also incorruptible.

This thread is an example, made specifically for bashing Trump generally from a Dem. Party perspective. We've allowed ourselves to become so polarized R vs. D that nothing can get done, while both parties are bought-and-paid-for corporate subsidiaries.

How many here have tried to organize a few hundred people in their Congressional districts, putting aside party labels and partisanship? How many have bucked the conversation they might have been having when someone gushed about Trump or Clinton, or your lousy Congress reps, for fear of standing out from the crowd or being chastised, and didn't use the same old lesser-of-two-evils canard?

How many of you rooted for war on Afghanistan, or later Iraq, based on zero or false evidence, except some jingoism yelled through a bullhorn by Shrub and repeated endlessly by the MSM?

I'd like to see threads for example, on getting a Constitutional amendment to overturn the Citizens United decision. I'd like to see threads on lobbying Congress, the MSM, and the White House for Trump to order the release of the data NSA has on the DNC servers and Podesta emails. Those are things worth fighting for instead of wasting energy on these fabricated sideshows.

Those are the kinds of things that got us here.

 
Just who are you lecturing exactly? If you're upset by what you are reading here and want to see threads on things that you are currently not seeing... go ahead and start them. No skin off my ass.
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Posted: Jul 31, 2017 - 10:37am

 aflanigan wrote:

Third party candidates have not been, and will continue to not be, the game changers you imagine. 

 
you're correct in recognizing that it's not candidates

it's their philosophy

good people, intelligent people can have a flawed philosophical position (even if they're given great power and have fancy titles and stuff)

the two major parties core philosophy (as evidenced by their human action) is deeply flawed

just look at the debt, deficit, unfunded liabilities, healthcare, schooling, foreign policy, etc.

it should be abundantly clear that there is a problem

a consistent approach in problem solving (solution building) should revolve around scientific principles

regards
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