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Posted: Jan 5, 2018 - 7:36am

Regarding the Russians meeting with Trump, why haven't they subpoenaed the security camera footage from the hotels they were at? Of course, it's likely they have and we just don't know about it right now.
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Posted: Jan 5, 2018 - 7:10am

TRUMP 'IS UNRAVELING': WHAT A YALE PSYCHIATRIST TOLD LAWMAKERS ON THE PRESIDENT'S MENTAL HEALTH
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Posted: Jan 5, 2018 - 5:02am


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Posted: Jan 4, 2018 - 7:59pm

 Steely_D wrote:

If he wants it over he and his whole family (his whole administration team) need to be forthright and open.
And if that bug gets him, then he should release his tax returns.

He's been such a liar that pretty much nothing is going to remove that stain. Of course, he doesn't care. This isn't about legit respect (since he's not getting legit feedback about his performance - he ignores everything that's not Fox&Friends apparently). It's about him increasing his fortune and feeling good about himself, not about truth and ethics and real greatness. Hopefully, he'll just be dead soon and all the gold bathrooms in the world will mean nothing. 

 
Indeed. That is the key point - if his lips are moving, he's lying.
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Posted: Jan 4, 2018 - 7:50pm

 kurtster wrote:
But as long as we have the Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia,Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia,
 Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia, 
Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia thing going, we'll have Sessions.
 
If he wants it over he and his whole family (his whole administration team) need to be forthright and open.
And if that bug gets him, then he should release his tax returns.

He's been such a liar that pretty much nothing is going to remove that stain. Of course, he doesn't care. This isn't about legit respect (since he's not getting legit feedback about his performance - he ignores everything that's not Fox&Friends apparently). It's about him increasing his fortune and feeling good about himself, not about truth and ethics and real greatness. Hopefully, he'll just be dead soon and all the gold bathrooms in the world will mean nothing. 
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Posted: Jan 4, 2018 - 3:23pm

 sirdroseph wrote:
For the love of all that is Holy, Trump you love firing people. Would you PLEASE get rid of Jeff Sessions?? angry smh

 
Totally agree.  Unfortunately, he can't until the Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia ... thing with Mueller is over.  Trump would get nailed on the Saturday Night Massacre thing before Sessions had left the building if he does it now.

I understand the cannabis part.  Actually this is a good thing if you take the Trump admin's word at face value.  The enforcement will force Congress to finally deal with it formally.  I don't care how many laws states pass, until the feds change the federal law, its still illegal.  Enough states have made it legal, period, that Congress will finally have to act and make the decision.  The people have pretty much spoken.

In addition to the weed part, I think that Sessions has been compromised, blackmailed by someone / thing.  I base that on all the things he hasn't done.  Like why is Huma still walking the streets a free woman ?  For that reason alone, he has to go.

But as long as we have the Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia,Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia,
 Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia, 
Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia thing going, we'll have Sessions.


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Posted: Jan 4, 2018 - 11:01am

 Lazy8 wrote:
 ...Even the headline is revealing. Look at all the allegations against the president and his administration and look at what they ran with: his election victory took him by surprise. Really? That's the biggest revelation here? Out of this pile of allegations that's what matters?

That the American media is partisan is no longer even in question. When some enterprising real journalist fact-checks this and Wolff can't prove what he has alleged they'll all publish an excerpt that no one will read and claim that the story was always about the story, not the accusations they so eagerly repeated. They will not be self-critical about how easily they fell for this. And when a real crisis, a real scandal emerges—when we need heroic journalism—their credibility with anybody who doesn't share their biases will be in ashes.

I get it: they want to fight Trump. They want to be the heroic resistors who bring down the bad man. But every spadeful of dirt they're flinging is coming from the grave they're digging for American journalism.

 
I share your frustrations; the sensationalism plays into the madcap/circus atmosphere that he thrives in.  To a large extent, they are playing his game, by his rules, and paying far too much attention to his misdirections instead of what's really important.  Whenever they descend into the sewers they're going to get s**t on their clothes, and won't smell good when they have something substantial to report.
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Posted: Jan 4, 2018 - 10:33am

 aflanigan wrote:
And to a degree, I get your frustration. These people are . . . human. 

I get that you want perfection, and sloppy work angers you; but you should really resist the temptation to regularly paint with a broad brush in tarring "the media", as it gives the impression that you want to shove everyone in the business, including the careful, professional practitioners who mostly get it right, into this grave you mention.

Of course they're human, but some of them are partisan hacks who aren't taking their jobs as seriously as they want us to.

When major media outlets get it wrong and fail to own up to it and take corrective action it makes it hard for people who don't have the time to devote to doing their own fact checking to tell the signal from the noise. Scrupulous honesty is the only way past that cognitive bias and we're not getting it. That's not a matter of perfect execution, it's a matter of intent, of process, and commitment.

Outrage is exhausting. Use it wisely. Use it sparingly so you have strength for the real battle.
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Posted: Jan 4, 2018 - 10:21am

For the love of all that is Holy, Trump you love firing people. Would you PLEASE get rid of Jeff Sessions?? angry smh
Red_Dragon

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Posted: Jan 4, 2018 - 10:10am

We don't need no steenking planet
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Posted: Jan 4, 2018 - 9:41am

 Lazy8 wrote:

The problem with this isn't limited to one sloppy/dishonest journalist. This story is everywhere today, and not just the usual clickbait sources that consider searching Twitter for provocative quotes from NYU sociology grad students to be journalistic due diligence—it's on NPR and Newsweek and the NYT. Most of the old media are discretely hedging their glee with "according to Wolff" disclaimers, but not all. It's sensational, it paints Trump in a negative light, it's gospel.

Even the headline is revealing. Look at all the allegations against the president and his administration and look at what they ran with: his election victory took him by surprise. Really? That's the biggest revelation here? Out of this pile of allegations that's what matters?

That the American media is partisan is no longer even in question. When some enterprising real journalist fact-checks this and Wolff can't prove what he has alleged they'll all publish an excerpt that no one will read and claim that the story was always about the story, not the accusations they so eagerly repeated. They will not be self-critical about how easily they fell for this. And when a real crisis, a real scandal emerges—when we need heroic journalism—their credibility with anybody who doesn't share their biases will be in ashes.

I get it: they want to fight Trump. They want to be the heroic resistors who bring down the bad man. But every spadeful of dirt they're flinging is coming from the grave they're digging for American journalism.

 
And to a degree, I get your frustration. These people are . . . human. 

I get that you want perfection, and sloppy work angers you; but you should really resist the temptation to regularly paint with a broad brush in tarring "the media", as it gives the impression that you want to shove everyone in the business, including the careful, professional practitioners who mostly get it right, into this grave you mention.


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Posted: Jan 4, 2018 - 9:25am

 Red_Dragon wrote:

I'm most concerned with the threat of killing millions with his Twitter account. Twitter is criminally irresponsible for allowing him to violate their terms of service so frequently and blatantly. He issues threats of violence on an almost daily basis.

 

 


 
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Posted: Jan 4, 2018 - 9:12am

 aflanigan wrote:
Well, the latest report from Axios claims that . Wolff actually had the nerve to tape the interviews that he's quoting from to make sure he doesn't misquote anybody. Or quotes from memory from a dinner party that he hosted.

If true, it should be pretty easy for Wolff to back up questionable quotes.
EDIT: More than one political writer has warned about Wolff's seeming penchant for creating the illusion of intimate access, and creating quotes.

The problem with this isn't limited to one sloppy/dishonest journalist. This story is everywhere today, and not just the usual clickbait sources that consider searching Twitter for provocative quotes from NYU sociology grad students to be journalistic due diligence—it's on NPR and Newsweek and the NYT. Most of the old media are discretely hedging their glee with "according to Wolff" disclaimers, but not all. It's sensational, it paints Trump in a negative light, it's gospel.

Even the headline is revealing. Look at all the allegations against the president and his administration and look at what they ran with: his election victory took him by surprise. Really? That's the biggest revelation here? Out of this pile of allegations that's what matters?

That the American media is partisan is no longer even in question. When some enterprising real journalist fact-checks this and Wolff can't prove what he has alleged they'll all publish an excerpt that no one will read and claim that the story was always about the story, not the accusations they so eagerly repeated. They will not be self-critical about how easily they fell for this. And when a real crisis, a real scandal emerges—when we need heroic journalism—their credibility with anybody who doesn't share their biases will be in ashes.

I get it: they want to fight Trump. They want to be the heroic resistors who bring down the bad man. But every spadeful of dirt they're flinging is coming from the grave they're digging for American journalism.
miamizsun

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Posted: Jan 4, 2018 - 9:11am

 Red_Dragon wrote:

I'm most concerned with the threat of killing millions with his Twitter account. Twitter is criminally irresponsible for allowing him to violate their terms of service so frequently and blatantly. He issues threats of violence on an almost daily basis.

 
i understand

a lot of people are caught up in his tweets/news cycles/soap opera

it is fantastic for ratings and don't expect the media to kill this golden goose anytime soon

i'm more concerned with the actual/real people he is killing via foreign policy/war/droning/etc.

a few months back i read where he was averaging about 12 people a day (i'm sure that number will fluctuate, but if i recall he responsible for murdering more people than the last guy)

we're seriously conditioned to buy into media non-sense

the masses are hanging on every sensationalized word/tweet or this russian smoke and mirrors to try for some political posturing or impeachment while people are being slaughtered

what does it say about us?

we like to think we're moral and ethical

when i see a politician stand up to speak (trump, schumer, ryan, pelosi, etc) i imagine him or her stepping over twelve burnt and disfigured bodies on the way to the podium

then i listen to what they have to say

in my eyes they all have zero credibility and that includes the media

a system that promotes this insanity and moral corruption doesn't deserve my trust or support

and it damn sure isn't going to solve any real issues

it's crystal clear that don't know what they're doing

but it's probably just my jaded view

peace


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Posted: Jan 4, 2018 - 8:39am

 miamizsun wrote:

i think there have been people encouraging trump to run for office since the late eighties (i think i heard this on npr)

obviously he has thought about it from time to time but decided not to run on several occasions 

in other words this stuff is old hat re-branded into new grocery check out/tabloid news

if this stuff comes out i hope we can see it in context (not that it matters to those who hate him)

regards

p.s. is there anyone worried or actually concerned about the horrific human rights abuses that he is endorsing? or do we continue to look past this evil because the other team does it too?

 
I'm most concerned with the threat of killing millions with his Twitter account. Twitter is criminally irresponsible for allowing him to violate their terms of service so frequently and blatantly. He issues threats of violence on an almost daily basis.
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Posted: Jan 4, 2018 - 8:35am

 aflanigan wrote:

Well, the latest report from Axios claims that . Wolff actually had the nerve to tape the interviews that he's quoting from to make sure he doesn't misquote anybody. Or quotes from memory from a dinner party that he hosted.

If true, it should be pretty easy for Wolff to back up questionable quotes.
EDIT: More than one political writer has warned about Wolff's seeming penchant for creating the illusion of intimate access, and creating quotes.
 
i think there have been people encouraging trump to run for office since the late eighties (i think i heard this on npr)

obviously he has thought about it from time to time but decided not to run on several occasions 

in other words this stuff is old hat re-branded into new grocery check out/tabloid news

if this stuff comes out i hope we can see it in context (not that it matters to those who hate him)

regards

p.s. is there anyone worried or actually concerned about the horrific human rights abuses that he is endorsing? or do we continue to look past this evil because the other team does it too?
Red_Dragon

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Posted: Jan 4, 2018 - 7:55am

 aflanigan wrote:

Well, the latest report from Axios claims that . Wolff actually has the nerve to tape the interviews that he's quoting from to make sure he doesn't misquote anybody. Or quotes from memory from a dinner party that he hosted.

If true, it should be pretty easy for Wolff to back up questionable quotes.

 
He should really keep the tapes private until the people in questions start claiming "I never said that".
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Posted: Jan 4, 2018 - 7:40am

 Lazy8 wrote:

This is exactly the sort of story that discredits the media.

Its author pretends to know things he can't possibly know—what's the source for claiming that Trump had assured Melania he wouldn't become president? How does he know what Rupert Murdoch said as he hung up the phone?  Where did all the juicy quotes come from—the ones in conversations between only two people, people who haven't shared those conversations with anyone?

Anyone except, apparently, someone who doesn't think much of them or anyone who shares their politics.

 
Well, the latest report from Axios claims that . Wolff actually had the nerve to tape the interviews that he's quoting from to make sure he doesn't misquote anybody. Or quotes from memory from a dinner party that he hosted.

If true, it should be pretty easy for Wolff to back up questionable quotes.
EDIT: More than one political writer has warned about Wolff's seeming penchant for creating the illusion of intimate access, and creating quotes.


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Posted: Jan 3, 2018 - 5:04pm

 ScottFromWyoming wrote:

We should now hurry to reinstate the moratorium on Any Post That Makes Us Visualize...

 
{#Eek}{#Roflol} too late
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Posted: Jan 3, 2018 - 1:37pm

 the_jake wrote:


One response on twitter regarding this particular message from our commander and tweet - "Trump's button only looks bigger because of the size of his hands."

 
We should now hurry to reinstate the moratorium on Any Post That Makes Us Visualize...
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