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Posted: Jun 2, 2020 - 4:05pm



 R_P wrote:
 KarmaKarma wrote:
Dishonesty is a strong feature of your makeup.  You may fool many, but not me.

https://660amtheanswer.com/content/all/did-donald-trump-really-mock-a-reporters-disability

Trusted sources. Hilarious gymnastics and hair splitting in service of... denial.
After referring to Kovaleski as “a nice reporter,” Trump launched into an impression of him, pointedly flopping his right arm around with his hand held at an odd angle while saying (in imitation of Kovaleski): “Now, the poor guy, you’ve got to see this guy: ‘Uhh, I don’t know what I said. Uhh, I don’t remember,’ he’s going like ‘I don’t remember. Maybe that’s what I said'” (...)

After Trump then became the center of a second, even bigger controversy for supposedly having callously mocked a disabled reporter in public (that Trump was mocking Kovaleski was undeniable, but whether he was specifically mocking Kovaleski’s appearance and disability was a subject of debate), Trump asserted that the whole thing was just a coincidence — he had no idea who Kovaleski was and thus couldn’t have been aware of his physical condition (...)

Trump’s claims to non-memory were widely considered to be disingenuous
, as Kovaleski had covered Trump extensively while working for the Daily News from 1987 to 1993 and had interviewed and talked to the business magnate numerous times during that period:
Donald and I were on a first-name basis for years. I’ve interviewed him in his office. I’ve talked to him at press conferences. All in all, I would say around a dozen times, I’ve interacted with him as a reporter while I was at The Daily News
Compulsive denial. And cowardice.


Rote jackassery. And projection.
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Posted: Jun 2, 2020 - 4:03pm



 steeler wrote:


 KarmaKarma wrote:


 R_P wrote:
 KarmaKarma wrote:
You seem to have quite a number of issues. A veritable goldmine for a mental health professional, would be my take.
 
Making fun of handicaps comes with the territory...


 

Dishonesty is a strong feature of your makeup.  You may fool many, but not me.



https://660amtheanswer.com/content/all/did-donald-trump-really-mock-a-reporters-disability


...What the media did not choose to show you was video of Serge Kovaleski. Notice how the media only showed and still shows photos of him. This was done for a reason.
As it turns out, Kovaleski’s disability is a congenital condition called arthrogryposis. Arthrogryposis causes restricted movement in the joints but does not cause spasms or uncontrolled moving of the limbs like cerebral palsy does.

To show the depths of the deceit, one CNN reporter explained, while displaying a still photo of him, that Kovaleski, “suffers from a chronic condition that impairs movement of his arms.” Again, the implication is that Kovaleski can’t control his arms from moving. To the contrary, Kovaleski appears perfectly calm when giving interviews. Thus, if Trump truly wanted to mock Kovaleski’s disability, he would have had to stand perfectly still with a flexed right hand and not flail his arms. don’t believe me? Watch the video:


Congrats R_P.  You can claim fractional ownership of the same trophy that CNN perennially wins for twisting the truth.

 

Ok, let me assume all of the above to be true.

What was Trump doing when he made those gestures?  




Have you heard of 3D Chess?   Trump plays 4D...

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Posted: Jun 2, 2020 - 4:03pm

 KarmaKarma wrote:
Dishonesty is a strong feature of your makeup.  You may fool many, but not me.

https://660amtheanswer.com/content/all/did-donald-trump-really-mock-a-reporters-disability

Trusted sources. Hilarious gymnastics and hair splitting in service of... denial.
After referring to Kovaleski as “a nice reporter,” Trump launched into an impression of him, pointedly flopping his right arm around with his hand held at an odd angle while saying (in imitation of Kovaleski): “Now, the poor guy, you’ve got to see this guy: ‘Uhh, I don’t know what I said. Uhh, I don’t remember,’ he’s going like ‘I don’t remember. Maybe that’s what I said'” (...)

After Trump then became the center of a second, even bigger controversy for supposedly having callously mocked a disabled reporter in public (that Trump was mocking Kovaleski was undeniable, but whether he was specifically mocking Kovaleski’s appearance and disability was a subject of debate), Trump asserted that the whole thing was just a coincidence — he had no idea who Kovaleski was and thus couldn’t have been aware of his physical condition (...)

Trump’s claims to non-memory were widely considered to be disingenuous
, as Kovaleski had covered Trump extensively while working for the Daily News from 1987 to 1993 and had interviewed and talked to the business magnate numerous times during that period:
Donald and I were on a first-name basis for years. I’ve interviewed him in his office. I’ve talked to him at press conferences. All in all, I would say around a dozen times, I’ve interacted with him as a reporter while I was at The Daily News
Compulsive denial. And cowardice.
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Posted: Jun 2, 2020 - 3:55pm


steeler

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Posted: Jun 2, 2020 - 3:52pm



 KarmaKarma wrote:


 R_P wrote:
 KarmaKarma wrote:
You seem to have quite a number of issues. A veritable goldmine for a mental health professional, would be my take.
 
Making fun of handicaps comes with the territory...


 

Dishonesty is a strong feature of your makeup.  You may fool many, but not me.



https://660amtheanswer.com/content/all/did-donald-trump-really-mock-a-reporters-disability


...What the media did not choose to show you was video of Serge Kovaleski. Notice how the media only showed and still shows photos of him. This was done for a reason.
As it turns out, Kovaleski’s disability is a congenital condition called arthrogryposis. Arthrogryposis causes restricted movement in the joints but does not cause spasms or uncontrolled moving of the limbs like cerebral palsy does.

To show the depths of the deceit, one CNN reporter explained, while displaying a still photo of him, that Kovaleski, “suffers from a chronic condition that impairs movement of his arms.” Again, the implication is that Kovaleski can’t control his arms from moving. To the contrary, Kovaleski appears perfectly calm when giving interviews. Thus, if Trump truly wanted to mock Kovaleski’s disability, he would have had to stand perfectly still with a flexed right hand and not flail his arms. don’t believe me? Watch the video:


Congrats R_P.  You can claim fractional ownership of the same trophy that CNN perennially wins for twisting the truth.

 

Ok, let me assume all of the above to be true.

What was Trump doing when he made those gestures? I assume you are not arguing that he did not do so. 

Don’t  wrack your brain trying to answer. I recognize one cannot be expected to make a silk purse out of a sow’s ear.



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Posted: Jun 2, 2020 - 3:51pm



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Dodge.  Move the goal posts.  Not the original situation you posed and I responded to.
 
Bullshit.

Your projection is truly breathtaking, Kurt.

I don't know of anyone here who has failed to see the difference between non-violent protesters and the goddam assholes who seek to take violent advantage of a bad situation.

Go ahead and tell me that if the heavily-armed fuckers yelling at police had been any color other than lily white they'd be DEAD.  If YOU can't see the racist double standards in this country - part of the design of this country - then, as on every other issue, you are a lost cause.

I've been watching this disaster and the overwhelming majority of provocateurs are not dark skinned. Who gains from making righteously-aggrieved POC look like violent hoodlums?

I'm sick to death of your backpedaling, semantic bullshit and slavering support of your racist, self-absorbed, mentally-deranged hero.

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Posted: Jun 2, 2020 - 3:45pm



 R_P wrote:
 KarmaKarma wrote:
You seem to have quite a number of issues. A veritable goldmine for a mental health professional, would be my take.
 
Making fun of handicaps comes with the territory...


 

Dishonesty is a strong feature of your makeup.  You may fool many, but not me.



https://660amtheanswer.com/content/all/did-donald-trump-really-mock-a-reporters-disability


...What the media did not choose to show you was video of Serge Kovaleski. Notice how the media only showed and still shows photos of him. This was done for a reason.
As it turns out, Kovaleski’s disability is a congenital condition called arthrogryposis. Arthrogryposis causes restricted movement in the joints but does not cause spasms or uncontrolled moving of the limbs like cerebral palsy does.

To show the depths of the deceit, one CNN reporter explained, while displaying a still photo of him, that Kovaleski, “suffers from a chronic condition that impairs movement of his arms.” Again, the implication is that Kovaleski can’t control his arms from moving. To the contrary, Kovaleski appears perfectly calm when giving interviews. Thus, if Trump truly wanted to mock Kovaleski’s disability, he would have had to stand perfectly still with a flexed right hand and not flail his arms. don’t believe me? Watch the video:


Congrats R_P.  You can claim fractional ownership of the same trophy that CNN perennially wins for twisting the truth.


One had to be pretty dumb to believe it anyway.


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Posted: Jun 2, 2020 - 3:44pm



 steeler wrote:


 kurtster wrote:

The establishment Deep State runaway freight train would be the one.  It has been slowed down, soon to be derailed.

Of course I know that you believe that there is no such thing ...
 

My recollection is that you were talking about a systemic upheaval beyond the uprooting of the Deep State. The post of yours unearthed by Red Dragon had you contemplating whether  Bernie or Trump might be a better choice for blowing up the system.  The changes Bernie  proposed (and continues to propose) are more reflective of a sea change. I recall you talking of that kind of catalyst. He would be slaying different dragons than Trump.

That said, you say now you were talking only about derailing the Deep State. I presume from your response that this is a work in progress, requiring 4 more years of Trump, and that we as a nation will not see or accrue the benefit until the extinction of the Deep State is completed?

The reason why I challenge this notion of a Deep State is that, for those who believe,  it seems to be an ever-expanding, shape-sifting creature, like an amoeba. 
Let’s see: Trump has rid us of or exposed  â€” or is about to expose — Deep State members Comey,  Brennan, Clapper, McCabe, Mueller, the members of the Mueller team, Judge Amy Berman Jackson, Judge Emmet Sullivan, FBI  lovers Strzok and Page,  Adam Schiff, the ousted Inspector General for the Intelligence Community,  former Ukraine Ambassador Marie Yovanovitch, the Vindman brothers, Susan Rice, Joe Biden, President Obama, and countless others. When will we ever be rid of them? How can we ever be sure we have got rid of all of them?

And these are just the ones exposed or potentially exposed by the Trump administration. Who knows how many existed before this batch. I believe you have stated numerous times before that the Deep State has been with us long before Trump. Yet the ones being exposed now all seem to share one commonality -  they have opposed Trump and were engaged in a coup to end his presidency before he could expose their Deep State roots. So what were these and the other Deep Staters doing before  Trump became a candidate for President? 

Yes, it sounds to me like a conspiracy theory, one that benefits Trump to promote.






 

Don't bother looking for any sort of guiding principles or law-based goals when it comes to Trump's "fight" against the so-called Deep State. As you've noted, Trump and friends invoke the Deep State only when facing opposition against or investigation into Trump's actions.

Trump doesn't care about fair and transparent government. He's regularly tried to stifle opposition and the flow of information from the executive branch. Trump supporters like Kurt translate their personal anxieties about the state of the country and federal government into an embedded and prolonged conspiracy against them. This is like Joe McCarthy's babbling about Communists running the State Department...but now the bogeyman supposedly stretches across the federal government and oppresses the average American.

And Trump takes advantage of this paranoia. Feeds it and feeds on it.

The sad thing is that people fearing a Deep State against them don't translate their fears into becoming more involved with government. They expect Big Daddy Trump to fight their battles.

Hey, Kurt: what happened to Obamagate? Are you still sitting up nights in the pumpkin patch? 
steeler

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Posted: Jun 2, 2020 - 3:27pm



 kurtster wrote:

The establishment Deep State runaway freight train would be the one.  It has been slowed down, soon to be derailed.

Of course I know that you believe that there is no such thing ...
 

My recollection is that you were talking about a systemic upheaval beyond the uprooting of the Deep State. The post of yours unearthed by Red Dragon had you contemplating whether  Bernie or Trump might be a better choice for blowing up the system.  The changes Bernie  proposed (and continues to propose) are more reflective of a sea change. I recall you talking of that kind of catalyst. He would be slaying different dragons than Trump.

That said, you say now you were talking only about derailing the Deep State. I presume from your response that this is a work in progress, requiring 4 more years of Trump, and that we as a nation will not see or accrue the benefit until the extinction of the Deep State is completed?

The reason why I challenge this notion of a Deep State is that, for those who believe,  it seems to be an ever-expanding, shape-shifting creature, like an amoeba. Let’s see: Trump has rid us of or exposed  â€” or is about to expose — Deep State members Comey,  Brennan, Clapper, McCabe, Mueller, the members of the Mueller team, Judge Amy Berman Jackson, Judge Emmet Sullivan, FBI  lovers Strzok and Page,  Adam Schiff, the ousted Inspector General for the Intelligence Community,  former Ukraine Ambassador Marie Yovanovitch, the Vindman brothers, Susan Rice, Joe Biden, President Obama, and countless others. When will we ever be rid of them? How can we ever be sure we have got rid of all of them? They seemingly multiply like pods.

And these are just the ones exposed or potentially exposed by the Trump administration. Who knows how many existed before this batch. I believe you have stated numerous times before that the Deep State has been with us long before Trump. Yet the ones being exposed now all seem to share one commonality among Trump and Deep State believers -  they have opposed or angered Trump and were and are engaged in a coup to end his presidency before he could expose their Deep State roots. So what were these and the other Deep Staters doing before  Trump became a candidate for President? 

Yes, it sounds to me like a conspiracy theory, one that benefits Trump to promote. Bogeymen everywhere. Only Trump stands between us and these political ghouls. 





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Posted: Jun 2, 2020 - 2:49pm

 KarmaKarma wrote:
You seem to have quite a number of issues. A veritable goldmine for a mental health professional, would be my take.
 
Making fun of handicaps comes with the territory...


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Posted: Jun 2, 2020 - 2:43pm

 kurtster wrote:
I'm on the legacy site.
 
NSS.

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Posted: Jun 2, 2020 - 2:43pm



 ScottFromWyoming wrote:


 KarmaKarma wrote:


 
 

Curious. Got any proof that any of them are affiliated with Antifa?
 

Your tenuous grasp of English continues to amuse me.
lol 

(Sounds like something I might have said.)

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Posted: Jun 2, 2020 - 2:42pm

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He has excuses for not seeing anyone.  it's free up there.
 
You're becoming incoherent, like KK. What do they put in the Kool-aid?
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Posted: Jun 2, 2020 - 2:41pm

 R_P wrote:
 kurtster wrote:
There seems to be a problem here on the website.  Nothing I link to here comes up properly.

Doesn't change anything I said though.
 
The problem is you. In both cases.
 
I'm on the legacy site.
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Posted: Jun 2, 2020 - 2:40pm

 KarmaKarma wrote:


 R_P wrote:
 kurtster wrote:
There seems to be a problem here on the website.  Nothing I link to here comes up properly.

Doesn't change anything I said though.
 
The problem is you. In both cases.
 

Look in the mirror lately?


You seem to have quite a number of issues. A veritable goldmine for a mental health professional, would be my take.
 
He has no excuses for not seeing anyone.  it's free up there.
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Posted: Jun 2, 2020 - 2:40pm

 kurtster wrote:
The establishment Deep State runaway freight train would be the one.  It has been slowed down, soon to be derailed.
 
Another "soon to be".

Still waiting for tons of other shocking revelations that were just around the corner. Any moment now! Hold on! Wait for it...
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Posted: Jun 2, 2020 - 2:38pm



 R_P wrote:
 kurtster wrote:
There seems to be a problem here on the website.  Nothing I link to here comes up properly.

Doesn't change anything I said though.
 
The problem is you. In both cases.
 

Look in the mirror lately?


You seem to have quite a number of issues. A veritable goldmine for a mental health professional, would be my take.
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Posted: Jun 2, 2020 - 2:36pm

 steeler wrote:


 kurtster wrote:
So to answer yet again why I still support Trump. 

Biden scares the hell out of me. 

More so than anything Trump has done or might do.

If you want me to dump Trump, then yer going to have to do a lot better than Biden.  A whole lot better.
 What is the “train wreck” you hoped would occur with Trump’s election? We are 3 1/2 years into Trump’s presidency. Has the “train wreck” occurred? If so, what have been the benefits to this nation and its people?

It seems logical to me that a “train wreck” occurring within our governing structure, triggered by the ascendancy to office of a particular President, would be abrupt and jarring — to say the least — and would bring with it unrest of the sort we are seeing now.

*posting again as this seemed to have become lost in the shuffle. Perhaps you did not use the term “train wreck” but I do recall you talking about this concept of blowing up the existing system with Trump being the dynamite, so my above questions are apropos*

 
The establishment Deep State runaway freight train would be the one.  It has been slowed down, soon to be derailed.

Of course I know that you believe that there is no such thing ...
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Posted: Jun 2, 2020 - 2:34pm



 R_P wrote:
 kurtster wrote:
Yeah, he always lights up Those Lovable Policemen thread with anti cop material.
 
Your links don't work. Get with the times already.

That thread almost makes it seem like you could know this would be coming. Unless you were in deep, deep denial and liked things just fine as they were.
 
You look good in yellow.  



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Posted: Jun 2, 2020 - 2:33pm



 kurtster wrote:
So to answer yet again why I still support Trump. 

Biden scares the hell out of me. 

More so than anything Trump has done or might do.

If you want me to dump Trump, then yer going to have to do a lot better than Biden.  A whole lot better.
 

What is the “train wreck” you hoped would occur with Trump’s election? We are 3 1/2 years into Trump’s presidency. Has the “train wreck” occurred? If so, what have been the benefits to this nation and its people?

It seems logical to me that a “train wreck” occurring within our governing structure, triggered by the ascendancy to office of a particular President, would be abrupt and jarring — to say the least — and would bring with it unrest of the sort we are seeing now.

*posting again as this seemed to have become lost in the shuffle. Perhaps you did not use the term “train wreck” but I do recall you talking about this concept of blowing up the existing system with Trump being the dynamite, so my above questions are apropos*

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