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Posted: Mar 27, 2017 - 10:15pm

 haresfur wrote:

Note this is in response to a court order addressing the lack of resources for predominantly black schools. So the obvious solution is to provide enough funding for everyone, rather than cutting to a win-lose level.

If the school board was smart, they would encourage busing white students to schools where they are putting more funding and to bus black students to the white schools to balance the demographics. Maybe at some point they could change it so the funding is based on parental education levels rather than race.

 

You might want to read up on the history of court-ordered busing in Boston during the 70s. AFAICT it generally didn't improve educational achievement for minority students bused to better schools. It also lead to a lot of white families moving their kids out of the Boston school system, either to the suburbs or into private and parochial schools. Busing also really worsened racial relations in Boston. IIRC it also didn't prevent eventual re-segregation of schools in the city. 

I think it's generally better to move funding, resources and effective government oversight into underperforming schools than to bus kids out of them. 


Today, it seems that Boston uses a lottery system to help parents choose schools for their kids.



The new system, approved by the School Committee last March after more than a year of research and debate, is quite different from the old one. For 25 years, the city divided schools into three sprawling geographic-based zones, under a plan to comply with court-ordered desegregation that offered families a choice of about two dozen schools.

Schools are no longer divided into assignment zones. Instead, a computer algorithm generates a list of schools that considers such factors as distance from a family’s home, school capacity, and MCAS performance. The algorithm guarantees a minimum of six school choices, including at least four of medium or high quality. But in many cases, families in densely populated neighborhoods with many nearby schools are receiving more than a dozen options.



But it's not fully successful:


The city uses a lottery system that was intended to give all students access to high-achieving classrooms, regardless of neighborhood or life circumstance. But families fixate on a collection of well-known, fiercely sought-after schools, largely ignoring those with lesser reputations. And over the past two decades, popularity has often become a proxy for quality, making it even harder for schools to get off that second rung. 
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Popular schools have become synonymous with the choices of white middle-class families, principals and families say. And the demand report reflects the choices of families who choose early.

Oliver said parents of color and those in low-income communities “don’t always go in to make choices when the lottery starts. We have a lot of people who can’t make a commitment until June or even Labor Day.’’



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School choice is “pretty complicated stuff, and people are always eager to come up with pretty simple solutions,’’ said Curt Dudley-Marling, a Boston College professor who studies patterns of school failure and success. “It always seems to me that it’s rigged for parents who have the most resources.’’

Not all families have the benefit of active parent groups that organize school tours to help families vet their options, which in Boston could mean as many as 20 public school options, not including charters. Single parents, families new to the country, parents of disabled children, or families struggling with the demands of life often are unable to investigate every option.

“I can’t imagine they have time, much less the resources, to go to fairs and all these things,’’ Dudley-Marling said. Instead, they, like most people, default to what they have heard within their circle of influence.

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Boston is seeking to overhaul its school assignment process, but city officials are adamant that parents will always have some degree of choice. “The question,’’ said Superintendent Carol R. Johnson, “is how much choice is enough and what are the . . . choices parents have?’’ 

 
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Posted: Mar 27, 2017 - 8:37pm

The racial formula was a condition imposed by court decisions dealing with desegregation in the 1970s.
Being unexpectedly on the receiving end of discrimination opens eyes and mouths...
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Posted: Mar 27, 2017 - 8:34pm

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How would that work ?  Seriously.  A brand new approach I've never heard before.

 
Base it on the census.
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Posted: Mar 27, 2017 - 8:23pm

 haresfur wrote:

Note this is in response to a court order addressing the lack of resources for predominantly black schools. So the obvious solution is to provide enough funding for everyone, rather than cutting to a win-lose level.

If the school board was smart, they would encourage busing white students to schools where they are putting more funding and to bus black students to the white schools to balance the demographics. Maybe at some point they could change it so the funding is based on parental education levels rather than race.

 
How would that work ?  Seriously.  A brand new approach I've never heard before.
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Posted: Mar 27, 2017 - 8:16pm

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NoHo school budget cuts due to high white student percentage sparks outrage

Outrage has grown at Walter Reed Middle School in North Hollywood, as the school faces layoffs and increased class sizes due to a law limiting funds for schools with a higher white student body.

The Los Angeles Unified School District provides more funding for schools where the white population is below 30 percent.

 

"Thankfully we're going to keep our librarian. We're going to keep our nurse, but we may lose a few teachers, but not as many as we once thought," said Sheila Edmiston, one student's parent.

Several jobs will still be lost and class sizes could grow. For many parents, the race-based reason of "too many white students" has made the cuts more difficult to swallow.



 
Note this is in response to a court order addressing the lack of resources for predominantly black schools. So the obvious solution is to provide enough funding for everyone, rather than cutting to a win-lose level.

If the school board was smart, they would encourage busing white students to schools where they are putting more funding and to bus black students to the white schools to balance the demographics. Maybe at some point they could change it so the funding is based on parental education levels rather than race.
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Posted: Mar 27, 2017 - 7:39pm

 miamizsun wrote:

NoHo school budget cuts due to high white student percentage sparks outrage

Outrage has grown at Walter Reed Middle School in North Hollywood, as the school faces layoffs and increased class sizes due to a law limiting funds for schools with a higher white student body.

The Los Angeles Unified School District provides more funding for schools where the white population is below 30 percent.

 

"Thankfully we're going to keep our librarian. We're going to keep our nurse, but we may lose a few teachers, but not as many as we once thought," said Sheila Edmiston, one student's parent.

Several jobs will still be lost and class sizes could grow. For many parents, the race-based reason of "too many white students" has made the cuts more difficult to swallow.



 
They'll have to put all the white people on boats and ship them back east where they came from ....
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Posted: Mar 27, 2017 - 7:14pm

NoHo school budget cuts due to high white student percentage sparks outrage

Outrage has grown at Walter Reed Middle School in North Hollywood, as the school faces layoffs and increased class sizes due to a law limiting funds for schools with a higher white student body.

The Los Angeles Unified School District provides more funding for schools where the white population is below 30 percent.

 

"Thankfully we're going to keep our librarian. We're going to keep our nurse, but we may lose a few teachers, but not as many as we once thought," said Sheila Edmiston, one student's parent.

Several jobs will still be lost and class sizes could grow. For many parents, the race-based reason of "too many white students" has made the cuts more difficult to swallow.


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Posted: Mar 18, 2016 - 2:56pm

Recalling an Era When the Color of Your Skin Meant You Paid to Vote
Celebrating the 50th anniversary of a ruling that made the poll tax unconstitutional

In January 1955 in Hardin County, Texas, Leo Carr had to pay $1.50 to vote. That receipt for Carr's "poll tax" now resides in the collections of the Smithsonian’s National Museum of African American History and Culture. In today’s dollars, Carr paid roughly $13.

“It’s a day’s wages,” explains William Pretzer, the museum’s senior history curator. “You’re asking someone to pay a day’s wages in order to be able to vote.”

Pretzer says the museum accepted the donation of the receipt from Carr’s family as a vivid and a significant example of the way that voting rights were denied to African Americans. Poll taxes, quite simply a tax to pay to vote, were enacted in the post-reconstruction era from the late 19th to the very early 20th century. But they remained in effect until the 1960s. (...)


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Posted: Oct 1, 2015 - 1:00pm

Alabama Sends a Message
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Posted: Jul 28, 2015 - 4:08pm

Black Students In The U.S. Get Criminalized While White Students Get Treatment
The same misbehavior is treated in very different ways
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Posted: Jul 9, 2015 - 8:41am

Trumping America - Henry Giroux

Donald Trump lit up the mainstream media spectacle by stating in his presidential candidacy announcement, "When Mexico sends its people, they're not sending their best.... They're bringing drugs. They're bringing crime. They're rapists. And some, I assume, are good people." (1) The mainstream press could not let such an opportune racist outburst go unnoticed. After all, it was perfect fodder for fueling the corporate media's never-ending spectacle of entertainment. Mouthed from one of America’s favorite billionaire buffoons, his racist and xenophobic statements have been defended as brave, dismissed as uncivil, or set aside  as the colorful discourse of a cantankerous, rich eccentric. Such commentary collapses into the realm of the personal by privatizing racism. That is, it ignores the deep seated contours of systemic racism and xenophobia and the conditions that promote it, instead focusing on the individual who spouts such poisonous racist language. Rather than viewing Trump’s comments as a political virus that has deep roots in nativist apoplexy and a long legacy of racism and state violence, his despicable remarks are reduced to an uncivil rant by a bullying member of the billionaire class with no reference to the unmarked status of white privilege and its underlying logic of white supremacy.  Such commentary at its core is superficial, duplicitous, and represents a flight from responsibility and a politics of denial.

Not only did mainstream media replay Trump's statements over and over again, without any serious criticism, but also they filled the 24/7 news cycle with endless interviews in which Trump defended his remarks, proving the obvious about his arrogance and stupidity. Treated more as an indication of Trump's no-holds-barred personality than as another example of the myth of the United States' claim to the comfortable status of an alleged postracial society, Trump's remarks were viewed as indiscrete and colorful rather than symptomatic of the racial hatred lying beneath the culture of dominant politics.

The real issue that needs to be examined is what kind of society produces a Donald Trump.

The racial cleansing machine was in full operating mode as the dominant media apparatuses rushed to interview a variety of faux commentators about how they felt about Trump's remarks with little attempt to take the high ground and challenge many of the remarks that were made. On the contrary, the only truth or sense of injustice displayed by CNN, NBC, CBS and other major news outlets lies in the assumption that the meaning of any issue rests with making sure that the public is exposed to a narrow array of views in the interest of balance and journalistic objectivity.

According to this logic, balance - not morality, justice or evidence - is the ultimate arbiter of truth. Hence, Trump's vicious, racist remarks enabled the mainstream media to let the American people hear from Sen. Ted Cruz who argued that he liked Donald Trump and was glad he was bringing attention to the issue of "illegal immigration." (2) Former Sen. Rick Santorum joined Cruz in praising Trump for focusing on "illegal immigration," absent of any serious criticism of his racist remarks. (3) Other conservative politicians such as Sen. Lindsey Graham and former Gov. Rick Perry condemned Trump's remarks but nothing was said in the press about how they had played a key role in supporting legislation that was both vicious and racist. (4) (...)


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Posted: Jul 1, 2015 - 10:00pm

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The thing that confuses people is the difference between racism (pre-judging people based on their race) and culturism (pre-judging based on behavior).

Racism is shameful. Color is irrelevant to what you can expect from someone.

Judging someone as you see their behavior, their cultural expression? That's a different story. Someone (any color) comes swaggering at me with pants below their hips, anger on their face, and a lack of consideration for others around them - why wouldn't you use the information in front of you?

But these are subtle distinctions that people, and the media, are unwilling to make. Instead of looking and thinking about color, they jump to the obvious: what color are they?  

"Nothing. I just don't like the lifestyle." {#Wink}
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Posted: Jul 1, 2015 - 9:12pm

I'm sorry I haven't been keeping up with this thread but I think the only people that feel there isn't racism in America are the racists themselves.
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Posted: Jul 1, 2015 - 7:44pm

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What I see coming from you, as always, is a post with a pointless, provacative C&P link from some random, stick poking  viewpoint or angle that is designed to get a response that you can mock.

 
bump folks

 It's time to put this rabid dog down.
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Posted: Jul 1, 2015 - 7:44pm

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Kurt,don't feed this troll.

 
10 - 4
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Posted: Jul 1, 2015 - 7:40pm

Kurt, don't feed this troll.
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Posted: Jul 1, 2015 - 7:35pm

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(changes the subject)
 
That's still not in the article. By all means continue to justify your ideological hatred of one group, while furiously handwaving when confronted to the dangers of your own klan. {#Mrgreen}
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Posted: Jul 1, 2015 - 7:21pm

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Aside from clearly being unable to read, where did you see any conclusions? What I see coming from you is not unusual: more lies.

 

Speaking of lies.  I let this go over in the Global Terror thread, but since you brought up the subject of lying ...

The article when read deeply as opposed to your superficial take clearly deals with the wounded as a factor.  As I said, I got my information from reading the article you posted.  I did not make up the numbers as you stated.  It isn't just about the dead as you try and make the case repeatedly.

RichardPrins wrote:

The article doesn't talk about the wounded.

Ultimately the point is that there's only media-induced hysteria about one group (and eagerly lapped up and repeated by some folks). A.k.a. scapegoat politics and tribalism.

There is no Global War on Right Wing Extremists or billions/trillions of dollars spent to hunt them down. 

When all is tallied (globally) in the GWOT the biggest killers aren't the Muslim extremists when compared to their supposed targets. It's the people who at first use them for their own purposes, then creating larger imaginary threats that eventually re-materialize as real threats when lots of innocent people get killed in the game. Self-fulfilling prophecies of good and evil.

  

From the source material ...

And from line items in the article ...

Maj. Nidal Hasan was a U.S. Army psychiatrist who opened fire in a medical facility at the Fort Hood military base on November 5, 2009, killing 13 people and wounding more than 30 others. He was sentenced to death by a military court-martial in August 2013. Hasan was scheduled to deploy to Afghanistan a few weeks after the shooting took place. He had shouted “Allahu ¬akbar!” (“God is great”) before opening fire with a high-powered, high-capacity handgun with laser sights. After firing more than 200 rounds, he was shot by military police and was paralyzed from the waist down. Medical school classmates interviewed after the incident said that he had voiced strong opinions against the war in Afghanistan.

ParticipantsYear indicted or killed
Nidal Malik Hasan2009
 
 Victims killed  13
 
Victims wounded  32

Deadly Jihadist Attacks

On April 15, 2013, two pressure cooker bombs exploded at the Boston Marathon. The bombing triggered a massive investigation, and on April 18, photos of two suspects were released to the public. After the suspects were identified as Tamerlan and Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, the two brothers shot a policeman at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology in the early morning of April 19 and hijacked a car. The resulting manhunt ended when police shot and killed Tamerlan and later arrested Dzhokhar after he was discovered hiding in a boat in the Boston suburb of Watertown. Dzhokhar was indicted on multiple charges related to the bombing, including the use of a weapon of mass destruction. Dzhokhar Tsarnaev was found guilty and sentenced to death by a federal jury. According to NSA Director Gen. Keith Alexander, the NSA’s database of phone call records did not help identify the Tsarnaevs though it was used in the follow up investigation.

ParticipantsYear indicted or killed
Dzhokhar Tsarnaev2013
Tamerlan Tsarnaev2013

 
Victims killed  4
 
Victims wounded  170

 
On June 18, 2015, Dylann Roof was arrested and charged with killing nine people in a shooting on at the historic black Emmanuel AME Church in Charleston, South Carolina on June 17, 2015. According to one of the victims, Roof said: "You rape our women, and you’re taking over our country. And you have to go," during the shooting. Roof had posted a manifesto citing his radicalization after seeing the coverage of the Trayvon Martin case and laying out a racist worldview. He had also posted pictures on his website and Facebook featuring white supremacist imagery, including the Confederate battle flag, patches of the Apartheid South African flag, and a T-shirt featuring the number "88," which is often used as a symbol for "Heil Hitler."
ParticipantsYear indicted or killed
Dylann Roof2015
 
 
Victims killed  9
 
Victims wounded  0



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Posted: Jul 1, 2015 - 7:09pm

 RichardPrins wrote:

Aside from clearly being unable to read, where did you see any conclusions? What I see coming from you is not unusual: more lies.

 
What I see coming from you, as always, is a post with a pointless, provacative C&P link from some random, stick poking  viewpoint or angle that is designed to get a response that you can mock.


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