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rbigelo

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Posted: Nov 26, 2009 - 10:56am

My favorite part is when officer Obie asks Arlo and his friend for their wallets and belts.
MayBaby

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Posted: Nov 26, 2009 - 9:50am

 hippiechick wrote:

It's like sharing Thanksgiving dinner with our RP friends.
 
YaY !!

Free hugs n smoochies all around!

hippiechick

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Posted: Nov 26, 2009 - 9:25am

For those who aren't familiar:

"Alice's Restaurant Massacree" <sic> (commonly referred to simply as "Alice's Restaurant") is one of singer-songwriter Arlo Guthrie's most prominent works, a musical monologue based on a true story that began on Thanksgiving Day 1965, and which inspired a 1969 movie of the same name. In an interview for All Things Considered, Guthrie said the song points out that any American citizen who was convicted of a crime, no matter how minor (in his case, it was littering), could avoid being conscripted to fight in the Vietnam War.<1>

The song lasts 18 minutes and 34 seconds, occupying the entire A-side of Guthrie's 1967 debut record album, also titled Alice's Restaurant. It is notable as a satirical, first-person account of1960s counterculture, in addition to being a hit song in its own right. The final part of the song is an encouragement for the listeners to sing along, to resist the U.S. draft, and to end war.

The song

Apart from the chorus which begins and ends it, the "song" is in fact a spoken monologue, with a repetitive but catchy ragtime guitar backing. It recounts a true but comically exaggerated Thanksgiving Day adventure as a satirical, deadpan protest against the Vietnam War draft.

The Alice in the song was restaurant-owner Alice M. Brock, who in 1964 used $2,000 supplied by her mother to purchase a deconsecrated church in Great Barrington, Massachusetts, where Alice and her husband Ray would live. It was here rather than at the restaurant—which came later—where the song's Thanksgiving dinners were actually held.

On that Thanksgiving—November 25, 1965—the 18-year-old Guthrie and his friend Richard Robbins—19—were arrested by Stockbridge police officer William "Obie" Obanhein for illegally dumping some of Alice's garbage after discovering that the town dump was closed for the holiday. Two days later they plead guilty in court before a blind judge, James E. Hannon; the song describes to ironic effect the arresting officer's frustration at the judge being unable to see the "27 8-by-10 color glossy pictures with the circles and arrows and a paragraph on the back of each one explaining what each one was to be used as evidence against us." In the end, Guthrie and Robbins were fined $50 and told to pick up their garbage.

The song goes on to describe Guthrie's being called up for the draft, and the surreal bureaucracy at the New York City induction center at 1 Whitehall Street. Because of Guthrie's criminal record for littering, he is first sent to the Group W Bench (where those draftees wait who cannot be inducted except under a "moral waiver") then outright rejected as unfit for military service. The ironic punchline of the story's denouement is that, in the words of Guthrie, "I'm sittin' here on the Group W bench 'cause you want to know if I'm moral enough to join the army, burn women, kids, houses and villages after bein' a litterbug."

The final part of the song is where Arlo tells the audience that should they find themselves facing the draft they should walk into the military psychiatrist's office and sing, "Shrink, you can get anything you want, at Alice's restaurant," and walk out. Thus is born, "the Alice's Restaurant Anti-Massacree Movement, and all you got to do to join is to sing it the next time it comes around on the guitar."<2>

"Alice's Restaurant" was first performed publicly with Guthrie singing live on New York radio station WBAI one evening in 1967.<3> The song proved so popular that for months afterward the non-commercial station rebroadcast it only when listeners pledged to donate a large amount of money. It is regularly played on Thanksgiving by many classic rock radio stations and has become a tradition.<4> The original album rose to #17 on the Billboard chart.<5> The song was way too long to be released (or even fit on) a 45 RPM record, and so never made the Billboard Hot 100; however, a similar (and much shorter, at 4:43) tune, "Alice Rock and Roll Restaurant", made it to #97.

Guthrie revised and updated "Alice's Restaurant" years later to protest Reagan-era policies, but this second version has not been released on a commercial recording. He sang a third version during the Bush Administration years that was recorded and released by the Kerrville Folk Festival.

Guthrie later wrote a follow-up recounting how he learned that Richard Nixon had owned a copy of the song, and he jokingly suggested that this explained the famous 18½ minute gap in the Watergate tapes. Guthrie rerecorded his entire debut album for his 1997 CD Alice's Restaurant also known as Alice's Restaurant: The Massacree Revisited, on the Rising Son music label, which includes this expanded version. In 2005, Guthrie released the single "The Alice's Restaurant Multi-Colored Rainbow Roach Affair".

 

 


triskele

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Posted: Nov 26, 2009 - 9:22am

 laozilover wrote:

Sounds better here!

 


i remembered that xrt does it at 11 every year JUST in the nick of time!  we thought it was not until 2 on RP—-oops!
woulda missed it entirely!

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Posted: Nov 26, 2009 - 9:22am

 MayBaby wrote:
:::sittin here on the group W bench:::

 


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Posted: Nov 26, 2009 - 9:20am

 laozilover wrote:

Sounds better here!

 
It's like sharing Thanksgiving dinner with our RP friends.

MsJudi

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Posted: Nov 26, 2009 - 9:19am

Thank you, Bill. Happy Thanksgiving!
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Posted: Nov 26, 2009 - 9:19am

 hippiechick wrote:

Here too!
 
Sounds better here!


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Posted: Nov 26, 2009 - 9:18am

 MayBaby wrote:
:::sittin here on the group W bench:::

 
{#High-five} Happy Thanksgiving GF!

MayBaby

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Posted: Nov 26, 2009 - 9:16am

:::sittin here on the group W bench:::
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Posted: Nov 26, 2009 - 9:06am

 lily34 wrote:

happy duck day, aalln!
 
You, too.
Martini?

kurtster

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Posted: Nov 26, 2009 - 9:05am

{#Cool}
hippiechick

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Posted: Nov 26, 2009 - 9:04am

 triskele wrote:
RIGHT NOW, 11 am central, on WXRT Chicago, 93.1 fm, or streaming at WXRT.com

 
Here too!

triskele

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Posted: Nov 26, 2009 - 9:03am

RIGHT NOW, 11 am central, on WXRT Chicago, 93.1 fm, or streaming at WXRT.com


dionysius

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Posted: Nov 26, 2009 - 8:56am

Having just watched the brilliant I Ain't Got No Home documentary on his Dad last night on PBS, I figger we can hang with Arlo a while, too. Because his machine kills turkeys. (But leaves an awful lot of litter.)
lily34

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Posted: Nov 26, 2009 - 8:32am

 n4ku wrote:

Noon and Six EST, I believe he said last night. Or you can stream it now over in the Happy Thanksgiving topic. Then you can watch Turkeys Away!
 
happy duck day, aalln!

n4ku

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Posted: Nov 26, 2009 - 8:31am

 ScottFromWyoming wrote:

Yes. Bill spaketh just a little bit ago.
 
Noon and Six EST, I believe he said last night. Or you can stream it now over in the Happy Thanksgiving topic. Then you can watch Turkeys Away!

Xeric

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Posted: Nov 26, 2009 - 8:29am

 ScottFromWyoming wrote:

Yes. Bill spaketh just a little bit ago.
 
Ah, good.  All is right with the world, then.  Yes.

winter

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Posted: Nov 26, 2009 - 8:08am

A fine tradition - Thanksgiving's not right without it.
schtan

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Posted: Nov 26, 2009 - 8:06am

 BillnDollarBaby wrote:
Twelve and three again this year?  Anyone heard anything?

PST , i guess ... 


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