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miamizsun

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Posted: Dec 4, 2021 - 10:56am

interesting thread regarding pandemic to endemic perspective...


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Posted: Dec 4, 2021 - 10:03am

 miamizsun wrote:

can you pick up a binax at the local pharmacia?

if it has been 48 hours since the event you should get some indication one way or the other
 
I just searched binax and everything seems to be order online and get it within 2 days.

Actually just found in stock nearby.  But I really need a full tilt test.

I do have a plan if I test positive thanks to a discussion we had here a couple of weeks ago.

One the Clinic satellites is the designated place to go and get remdesivir if I test positive.

My coworker tested negative the day before (don't know what test) and next day +.  I worked with her all day Tuesday. In the hospital Thursday.
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Posted: Dec 4, 2021 - 9:52am

 kurtster wrote:
Thank you.  Got a test scheduled @ CVS for Monday at 7.30 pm. Soonest available.
 
can you pick up a binax at the local pharmacia?

if it has been 48 hours since the event you should get some indication one way or the other
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Posted: Dec 4, 2021 - 9:48am

 miamizsun wrote:

hope you and your co-worker(s) come out of this safe and sound  {#Good-vibes}
 
Thank you.  Got a test scheduled @ CVS for Monday at 7.30 pm. Soonest available.
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Posted: Dec 4, 2021 - 9:45am

 kurtster wrote:
Oh goody.  Been exposed again at work.  Co worker now hospitalized.
 
hope you and your co-worker(s) come out of this safe and sound  {#Good-vibes}
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Posted: Dec 4, 2021 - 9:28am

Oh goody.  Been exposed again at work.  Co worker now hospitalized.
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Posted: Dec 3, 2021 - 4:41pm


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Posted: Dec 3, 2021 - 3:57pm

 black321 wrote:

Dr. Gottlieb is uniquely qualified to write this book. 



Which means literally nothing to the Tucker-watchers. If Gottlieb doesn't agree with that smirking genius, then they're a pawn in the Clintons' game and probably a pedo.
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Posted: Dec 3, 2021 - 3:22pm

An uncontrolled spread might wipe out a big chunk of the American population of lower socio-economic status.  It would also take out folks of higher socio-economic status who are in extremely poor health.  

Think of it as Eugenics in the early 21st century.  
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Posted: Dec 3, 2021 - 10:41am

another blog's review of Gottlieb's book.


Looking for a thoughtful and timely stocking stuffer?

I suggest Uncontrolled Spread: Why COVID-19 Crushed Us and How We Can Defeat the Next Pandemic, by Scott Gottlieb, M.D. (Amazon link)

This book provides a comprehensive, well-written chronicle of the COVID-19 pandemic (as of mid-2021). Dr. Gottlieb documents—with great specificity—how and why our government’s public health infrastructure failed us during the pandemic. He also offers valuable recommendations for better planning.

HOW DID WE GET HERE?

Dr. Gottlieb is uniquely qualified to write this book. He is a former FDA commissioner, sits on Pfizer’s board of directors, and is a thoughtful observer and expert voice on the U.S. healthcare system. During the past two years, Gottlieb has been in the room with key decision makers (though it seems that his advice was sometimes ignored). That’s why Gottlieb is one of only three people I follow on Twitter.

This well-written, serious book begins in China, with the early days of the pandemic. The book does not take a position as to whether the virus's origins were natural or lab-made. However, it does document frightening cover-ups by the Chinese government. Gottlieb notes:
“We can no longer depend largely on global cooperation and the competency and transparency of other nations. COVID wasn’t caused deliberately, but it was enabled and nurtured by the intentional quashing of information.”
The final chapter reports: “China has never shared the initial strains of SARS -CoV2, which are key if we wish to firmly establish the virus’s origins.”

Gottlieb also deconstructs the many missteps and failures of the U.S. government’s public health infrastructure. He is especially critical of the Center for Disease Control’s (CDC) slow and inaccurate responses. As to testing, he describes an overly bureaucratic CDC culture—which, as he puts it, “jealously guarded this turf."

Gottlieb also traces the friction between the CDC and the political staff at the White House and the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS). He describes, for example, how the CDC’s initial data on COVID hospital admissions were based on seemingly flimsy models, rather than actual, reported figures. This inexact modelling was addressed only when the drug remdesivir was made available for the treatment of hospitalized COVID patients.

Consider the titles of chapters 5 through 8, which describe the early 2020 period when the U.S. pandemic was accelerating: “Looking for Spread in the Wrong Places”; “The Zika Misadventure”; “The CDC Fails”; and “Not Enough Tests and Not Enough Labs.” One of the later chapters—“The Information Desert”—sarcastically describes CDC reports as “often thorough, data driven, well researched, and late.”

Gottlieb carefully highlights various problems with the federal response. He writes:
“The federal government lost trust and credibility early, by its inability to accurately convey the true scope of the hazard. The lack of reliable information on COVID’s spread, and the inability of people to access testing, degraded the integrity of the response.”

“The point here isn’t that the federal health officials were wrong. The point is that they were working with faulty tools, and from faulty data sets.”
The recent confusion over the Omicron variant makes me wonder how much has changed.

Chapter 11 contains compelling behind-the-scenes drama between CDC and HHS. Drug Channels readers will benefit from the material in this chapter describing the political pressures the FDA faced over such treatments as hydroxychloroquine and plasma. The book also provides invaluable, accessible context on such topics as the science of testing and previous pandemics (the Spanish flu, the H5N1 bird flu, H1N1 swine flu).

WHAT SHOULD WE DO NEXT TIME?

Gottlieb is careful never to write: “I told you so.” But I believe that he absolutely did warn us. Just read his many prescient articles and opinion pieces from early 2020. (These are cited in the book’s voluminous endnotes.)

The lack of coherent testing and tracing protocols emerges as a theme throughout the book. As Gottlieb repeatedly demonstrates, the absence of timely and reliable information led our government to both underestimate and overestimate the coronavirus. The final chapter—“A New Doctrine for National Security”—links global public health to national security. It offers sage advice on how the U.S. should integrate public health information into intelligence reporting.

I enjoyed the few bright spots of dry humor, such as when Gottlieb observes:
“When people hear the phrase ‘There is no need to panic,’ the first thing that many people will ask themselves is: ‘Should I panic?’”
Be warned. This a lengthy book that provides a highly detailed chronology of events. This material will be crucial for future scholars, epidemiologists, and public health experts. However, the casual reader may consider some sections to be heavy sledding.

I highly recommend Uncontrolled Spread for anyone who wants an objective, thorough, and authoritative examination of the COVID-19 pandemic. For everyone’s sake, I hope that the right people read and consider this book’s lessons and recommendations.



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Posted: Dec 2, 2021 - 4:56pm

Prior Infection Is Little Defense Against Virus Variant, Scientists Say
Evidence from South Africa, where the Omicron variant already dominates, shows a high rate of reinfection of people who have already had the coronavirus.
A past coronavirus infection appears to give little immunity to the new Omicron variant rippling across the globe, South African scientists warned on Thursday, potentially tearing away one layer of defense that humanity has won slowly and at immense cost.

Just a week after its existence was revealed to the world, the heavily mutated variant, which scientists fear could be the most contagious one yet, is already by far the dominant form of the virus in South Africa and spreading fast, according to officials there. Top European disease experts said Thursday that it could be the dominant form in Europe within a few months.

By Thursday, Omicron had been detected in 25 countries on six continents, and experts say it will soon be in every populated corner on earth. That could mean that a world already battered by two years of pandemic and — until recently — harboring hopes for recovery is instead headed for another wave of cases. (...)
Muh natural immunity!
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Posted: Dec 2, 2021 - 4:30pm

 Steely_D wrote:


Not surprising at all and isn't far removed from Chicken Little hysteria. As noted below:
1) infection rate doesn't mean that those people are sick, just that they're testing positive. "Rates going up!" needs to be held in that context.
2) and Omicron rates rising absolutely has to happen since they're just now getting around to documenting it; does that mean it's just now showing up? No, it means that it's just now getting attention, so no panic when they say the rates are rising.


So I just watched the news while eating and was struck by some of the similarities in the cases so far. 

- Most people seem to have come out of southern Africa (not just South Africa) in the past week or so...
- They have all been vaccinated twice, but no boosters (that I've heard of)...
- They are all having relatively minor symptoms, but enough to take a test/seek medical attention.

If this strain is more virulent and spreads quickly/easily, I'm guessing it's going to tear through the unvaccinated cohort like wildfire, with lockdowns on nursing homes and the possibility of remote learning on the horizon (and you thought the school board meetings have been fun this year!).  By Mid-January, the red states are going to look like the bible-belt in late summer (again).  The economy....inflation...the markets...will cool off a bit, but there won't be the March 2020 dive, as much of the country will remain open for business no matter what.

Just my guessing (and as you can see in the pick 'em... I've been more wrong than right recently).

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Posted: Dec 2, 2021 - 2:43pm

 R_P wrote:
Minnesota health officials said on Thursday that a man who lives in the state was infected with the Omicron variant of the coronavirus



Not surprising at all and isn't far removed from Chicken Little hysteria. As noted below:
1) infection rate doesn't mean that those people are sick, just that they're testing positive. "Rates going up!" needs to be held in that context.
2) and Omicron rates rising absolutely has to happen since they're just now getting around to documenting it; does that mean it's just now showing up? No, it means that it's just now getting attention, so no panic when they say the rates are rising.

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Posted: Dec 2, 2021 - 12:30pm

Minnesota health officials said on Thursday that a man who lives in the state was infected with the Omicron variant of the coronavirus. The man, who officials said had recently traveled to New York City, represents the second known case of the variant in the United States.

Leaders in Minnesota said the discovery was unsurprising, and credited robust disease surveillance systems for finding it.

“This news is concerning, but it is not a surprise,” Gov. Tim Walz said in a statement. “We know that this virus is highly infectious and moves quickly throughout the world. Minnesotans know what to do to keep each other safe now — get the vaccine, get tested, wear a mask indoors, and get a booster.”

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Posted: Dec 2, 2021 - 6:23am

 ScottFromWyoming wrote:

It's taken longer than I expected but I've finally lost one of my own relations... great aunt Maryanne, 89, was a sweet lady married for 71 years to a funny guy who's an absolute RWNJ crank. But funny. Their kids are more dyed-in-the-wool MAGAs with not much of the Christian grace that their mother and my grandmother exhibited. Maryanne lived in Texas her whole life; my grandma left with grandpa for the oilfields of Wyoming in the 50s.


sorry to hear this sct

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Posted: Dec 1, 2021 - 8:21pm

 rgio wrote:

I assumed as much. 

I just returned from the cemetery on the 1 year anniversary of my father's death...which would also belong in this thread.






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Posted: Dec 1, 2021 - 8:18pm

 rhahl wrote:
COVID-19 Mortality Risk Correlates Inversely with Vitamin D3 Status, and a Mortality Rate Close to Zero Could Theoretically Be Achieved at 50 ng/mL 25(OH)D3: Results of a Systematic Review and Meta-Analysis

 
 
"Without calcium supplementation, even very high vitamin D3 supplementation does not cause vascular calcification, especially if another important finding is included. Even when calcium blood levels are high, the culprit for undesirable vascular calcification is not vitamin D but insufficient blood levels of vitamin K2. Thus, daily vitamin D3 supplementation in the range of 4000 to 10,000 units (100 to 250 µg) needed to generate an optimal vitamin D3 blood level in the range of 40–60 ng/mL has been shown to be completely safe when combined with approximately 200 µg/mL vitamin K2 [80,81,82]. However, this knowledge is still not widespread in the medical community, and obsolete warnings about the risks of vitamin D3 overdoses unfortunately are still commonly circulating.
 
 
Thanks for this !

I've been taking D supplements for over 12 years since my stem cell transplant when my initial testing revealed my level tested at 15.  I was told to stay out of the sun for 1 full year after the transplant.  So I started taking 5k per day.  7 years later when my cancer came back and I was to get radiation for the first time, the Dr in charge of the radiation therapy told me that the type of radiation I was going to get would be especially hard on D in my body.  We retested my levels which floated around 40 and I doubled my daily dose to 10k per day and was also told for the first time that D is only fat soluble so it needed to be taken with appropriate foods.  I take between 5 to 10k per day depending on breakfast.  I always take 5k at night regardless.

This is the first time I am hearing about the K2 link.  I shall now add this to my daily regime, along with the C, zinc, turmeric and selenium staples.  I take a couple of others, but these are the core.  I credit the C, D and zinc combo for doing a lot to keep CV 19 at bay during all of this drama.  More than anything else, in addition to proper hygiene of course.
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Posted: Dec 1, 2021 - 7:59pm

 rgio wrote:
 
I just returned from the cemetery on the 1 year anniversary of my father's death...which would also belong in this thread.
 
{#Good-vibes}
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Posted: Dec 1, 2021 - 7:47pm

 ScottFromWyoming wrote:

It's taken longer than I expected but I've finally lost one of my own relations... great aunt Maryanne, 89, was a sweet lady married for 71 years to a funny guy who's an absolute RWNJ crank. But funny. Their kids are more dyed-in-the-wool MAGAs with not much of the Christian grace that their mother and my grandmother exhibited. Maryanne lived in Texas her whole life; my grandma left with grandpa for the oilfields of Wyoming in the 50s.




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Posted: Dec 1, 2021 - 7:01pm

 rgio wrote:
 westslope wrote:

Sounds like you were close to your great aunt Maryanne. But why announce in the COVID-19 thread?  Did she die of the C-19 virus?


I assumed as much.  I just returned from the cemetery on the 1 year anniversary of my father's death...which would also belong in this thread.
 
Condolences to you and Scott. {#Meditate}
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