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WTF are you talking about ? I can figure out who the "them" is, but who is the "us" ?
Dems, Indies, Socialists, Greenies ? I don't even really know who is a dem here. No one says. It's I'm an independent or I'm a some third party. Yet you all end up voting democrat regardless of what you claim to be. Why is that ? Are there any real democrats here anymore ?
I'm just taking a wild guess, but probably a lot more than real Republicans. If they do, in fact, still exist.
Quick reminder:
There are more of us than there are of them.
And, donât think of approaching any of this like a slap fight. Thatâs what they want: a chance to use brawn.
This is a time to think smarter, act more quietly, turn some levers that cause results - and not be martyrs or cannon fodder.
Lastly: for goodnessâ sake think proactively and comprehensively. Right now (!) there are people in rooms creating giant multi-level plans that will succeed if all pushback is after-the-fact. One part of a successful attack is distraction, either with multiple simultaneous fronts all at once, or an event elsewhere taking away resources from the primary target.
Donât get caught flat footed.
WTF are you talking about ? I can figure out who the "them" is, but who is the "us" ?
Dems, Indies, Socialists, Greenies ? I don't even really know who is a dem here. No one says. It's I'm an independent or I'm a some third party. Yet you all end up voting democrat regardless of what you claim to be. Why is that ? Are there any real democrats here anymore ?
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Posted:
Jul 27, 2026 - 11:37am
Quick reminder:
There are more of us than there are of them.
And, donât think of approaching any of this like a slap fight. Thatâs what they want: a chance to use brawn.
This is a time to think smarter, act more quietly, turn some levers that cause results - and not be martyrs or cannon fodder.
Lastly: for goodnessâ sake think proactively and comprehensively. Right now (!) there are people in rooms creating giant multi-level plans that will succeed if all pushback is after-the-fact. One part of a successful attack is distraction, either with multiple simultaneous fronts all at once, or an event elsewhere taking away resources from the primary target.
Donât get caught flat footed.
When the election certification is gnarled up in suits and litigation, Trump will undoubtedly begin calling for Marshall Law policies.
He's already stationed some Nat'l Guard and Military throughout D.C. until after the inauguration. He's also inciting pardoned proud boys and other militias to coalesce sporadically throughout the U.S.
Anyone who doesn't think he won't attempt a military coup via High T Hegseth, is miserably naive.
Trump will use scorched earth tactics rather than face accountability. If he goes down, he's taking us with him.
Trump Gutted the Kennedy Center. A Tour Guide Wants You to See It Anyway.
In a dogged demonstration of love for a Washington institution, Sandy Weiswasser is among a few dozen volunteers still showing dwindling visitors a hollowed-out building.
I'd love to hear from the MAGA faithful around here how they can support this... but I know we won't.
Not surprising, that is completely off the mark and bizarre. I wonder how he even got that idea. Many modern tractors are so simple - they use GPS to pretty much drive themselves. There are tractors that drive the same lines so that their tyres only compact small rows of soil, leading to better yields. Are they expensive? Sure, but environmental exesses aren't the reason. And farmers wouldn't buy them if their wasn't a reason they are worth it. But yeah, maybe they should return to sitting on a Ford 8N for days.
Spot on. Controlled traffic farming (that's the technical term for the GPS-guided fixed-line thing) has been showing real yield benefits precisely because it stops the whole field getting compacted every pass. RTK GPS accuracy is down to a couple of centimetres now, so the same wheel tracks get used season after season instead of randomly criss-crossing the soil structure. It's not some green vanity project, it's just better agronomy that happens to save diesel and time too. The upfront cost is steep but plenty of farmers work out the payback over a few seasons.
Not surprising, that is completely off the mark and bizarre. I wonder how he even got that idea. Many modern tractors are so simple - they use GPS to pretty much drive themselves. There are tractors that drive the same lines so that their tyres only compact small rows of soil, leading to better yields. Are they expensive? Sure, but environmental exesses aren't the reason. And farmers wouldn't buy them if their wasn't a reason they are worth it. But yeah, maybe they should return to sitting on a Ford 8N for days.
Spot on. Controlled traffic farming (that's the technical term for the GPS-guided fixed-line thing) has been showing real yield benefits precisely because it stops the whole field getting compacted every pass. RTK GPS accuracy is down to a couple of centimetres now, so the same wheel tracks get used season after season instead of randomly criss-crossing the soil structure. It's not some green vanity project, it's just better agronomy that happens to save diesel and time too. The upfront cost is steep but plenty of farmers work out the payback over a few seasons.
Not surprising, that is completely off the mark and bizarre. I wonder how he even got that idea. Many modern tractors are so simple - they use GPS to pretty much drive themselves. There are tractors that drive the same lines so that their tyres only compact small rows of soil, leading to better yields. Are they expensive? Sure, but environmental exesses aren't the reason. And farmers wouldn't buy them if their wasn't a reason they are worth it. But yeah, maybe they should return to sitting on a Ford 8N for days.
Spot on. Controlled traffic farming (that's the technical term for the GPS-guided fixed-line thing) has been showing real yield benefits precisely because it stops the whole field getting compacted every pass. RTK GPS accuracy is down to a couple of centimetres now, so the same wheel tracks get used season after season instead of randomly criss-crossing the soil structure. It's not some green vanity project, it's just better agronomy that happens to save diesel and time too. The upfront cost is steep but plenty of farmers work out the payback over a few seasons.
Fine, as long as you call Isreal the 51st state, and Palestine the 52nd. Then we tax them accordingly for the support they get. We also need to look at reapportioning the taxes/support that the current 50 are getting.
I'm not defending them "breaking the law", but if you look at the complexity of the process (of voting) and how few citizens really understand it (see: MAGA+)...
Imagine you're here, legally, working your way through the citizenship or visa process. I've worked with people doing it, and it's a maze of complexity and confusion. In the mail, you get a voter registration packet that automatically comes when you got your driver's license from the DMV. It's entirely reasonable to assume that this is just another step in your 12 year, $30,000 process of becoming a US citizen.
This is proof that the system works. Slowly. Inefficiently. But it ultimately limits risk to large scale election fraud. The biggest risk of election fraud is the guy running around talking about a stolen election with zero proof, and the congress who won't tell the emperor he's naked.
While we're on the subject of the Emperor's naked self....
He and the administration are so dumb that they prove they're lying without even knowing it.
Last Thursday (and several times since), Trump said the "deep state" was suppressing information...hiding it from him...that China was targeting US elections.
John Ratcliffe, the current CIA Director, was then the DNI. He oversaw the President's Daily Briefing then. If he kept shit from Trump.... HE IS THE DEEP STATE.
or... there was no credible evidence of this in 2020, and it's all just a lie?
So are you the Deep State or lying Mr. Trump? Drain the swamp!!!
This bears repeating for the benefit of the gentleman in Ohio who doesn't always read opinions contrary to his own:
"This is proof that the system works. Slowly. Inefficiently. But it ultimately limits risk to large scale election fraud. The biggest risk of election fraud is the guy running around talking about a stolen election with zero proof, and the congress who won't tell the emperor he's naked."
If the facts bear this out for the 400, the parallel would be the lack of intent.
The other 6200 who were registered but did not vote clearly did not engage in fraud. Any suggestion otherwise is propaganda and exploitation. I agree with your reasoning that what happened in New Jersey âdoesnât support the notion that our elections are âat riskâ and need federal intervention.â
I'm not defending them "breaking the law", but if you look at the complexity of the process (of voting) and how few citizens really understand it (see: MAGA+)...
Imagine you're here, legally, working your way through the citizenship or visa process. I've worked with people doing it, and it's a maze of complexity and confusion. In the mail, you get a voter registration packet that automatically comes when you got your driver's license from the DMV. It's entirely reasonable to assume that this is just another step in your 12 year, $30,000 process of becoming a US citizen.
This is proof that the system works. Slowly. Inefficiently. But it ultimately limits risk to large scale election fraud. The biggest risk of election fraud is the guy running around talking about a stolen election with zero proof, and the congress who won't tell the emperor he's naked.
While we're on the subject of the Emperor's naked self....
He and the administration are so dumb that they prove they're lying without even knowing it.
Last Thursday (and several times since), Trump said the "deep state" was suppressing information...hiding it from him...that China was targeting US elections.
John Ratcliffe, the current CIA Director, was then the DNI. He oversaw the President's Daily Briefing then. If he kept shit from Trump.... HE IS THE DEEP STATE.
or... there was no credible evidence of this in 2020, and it's all just a lie?
So are you the Deep State or lying Mr. Trump? Drain the swamp!!!
400 is not nothing. It's 0.00925514372% of the total votes though, so any businessman or statistician will tell you that the literal cost of eliminating those 400 will bankrupt New Jersey. They blame the Motor Voter bill? I didn't read it. Fix that loophole and there will be other holes. And when you consider that New Jersey might be the worst in the nation (or they wouldn't be held up as a bad example, right?), the problem is even less significant. Of course you'll come at me with an "every vote counts" argument and sure that's right but any actuary will tell you that 0.00925514372% is not worth correcting. "Worth" meaning the actual dollar cost of eliminating an error so tiny.
A friend said every bureaucracy needs a capacity for abuse, otherwise nothing gets done. This activity had absolutely no effect on the elections and I'm far more concerned about ensuring that everyone who has a legal right to vote is allowed and encouraged to do so without excessive roadblocks in their way. Things that republicans are happy to do.
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Posted:
Jul 23, 2026 - 1:32pm
rgio wrote:
There is no perfect system, but that doesn't mean that the results of elections are flawed. If non-citizens vote...deport them. Voting rights for felons is an entirely different issue.
Since this is the Trump thread... There's a guy who argued that Mar-a-lago was a club that he didn't live at for real estate purposes, and then used that address to vote from and claim residency when he left NY. It's financially wrong, but it didn't tip any elections.
If the facts bear this out for the 400, the parallel would be the lack of intent.
The other 6200 who were registered but did not vote clearly did not engage in fraud. Any suggestion otherwise is propaganda and exploitation. I agree with your reasoning that what happened in New Jersey âdoesnât support the notion that our elections are âat riskâ and need federal intervention.â
Although cleared by a hack county election supervisor, his registration is still technically a violation. It is a violation of the same caliber that has been used to go after many other people who did not commit the crimes willfully. So it is especially hypocritical for him to continue to use the loophole while screaming about 'fraud'. Also notable, he cast a mail-in ballot while screaming about people using mail-in ballots.
We agree, on not only his hypocrisy, but of those who defend his actions. When you can't agree on facts, what's the point.
There is no perfect system, but that doesn't mean that the results of elections are flawed. If non-citizens vote...deport them. Voting rights for felons is an entirely different issue.
Since this is the Trump thread... There's a guy who argued that Mar-a-lago was a club that he didn't live at for real estate purposes, and then used that address to vote from and claim residency when he left NY. It's financially wrong, but it didn't tip any elections.
Although cleared by a hack county election supervisor, his registration is still technically a violation. It is a violation of the same caliber that has been used to go after many other people who did not commit the crimes willfully. So it is especially hypocritical for him to continue to use the loophole while screaming about 'fraud'. Also notable, he cast a mail-in ballot while screaming about people using mail-in ballots.
