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westslope

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Posted: Jul 13, 2016 - 3:13pm

 sirdroseph wrote:
 westslope wrote:
Insufficiently complete.

Now the challenge is not to train criminals but train innocent civilians so they are not shot by police.  

That means:  No broken tail lights!  Everything on your automobile must be in tip-top shape.  All traffic laws must be carefully followed to the letter. 

 

I have lived that way all my life. I am always reminded of the Dylan lyric in Tom Thumb Blues; "the cops don't need you and man, they expect the same."

 

Me too.  Especially since I started smoking hashish at the age of 14, occasionally carrying psychedelics.   Why gratuitously attract unwanted attention by the police?  Especially with shoulder-length hair. 

Black American men might benefit by forming a Broken Tail-light Club.   The BTC's central message would be fix everything on the automobile that could provide any kind of pretence  for the police to pull them over:  lights, deflated tires, muddy and dirty license plates, clutter, noisy exhaust system, excess exhaust smoke.  

I know, it ain't fair.  Blacks should have the right to be just as sloppy about the state of their automobiles as whites are. The world isn't fair.  Just like it wasn't too fair to pasty-faced men with long hair in the not so distant past.  


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Posted: Jul 8, 2016 - 7:44am

 westslope wrote:
Insufficiently complete.

Now the challenge is not to train criminals but train innocent civilians so they are not shot by police.  

That means:  No broken tail lights!  Everything on your automobile must be in tip-top shape.  All traffic laws must be carefully followed to the letter. 

 





I have lived that way all my life. I am always reminded of the Dylan lyric in Tom Thumb Blues; "the cops don't need you and man, they expect the same."


westslope

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Posted: Jul 8, 2016 - 7:40am

Insufficiently complete.

Now the challenge is not to train criminals but train innocent civilians so they are not shot by police.  

That means:  No broken tail lights!  Everything on your automobile must be in tip-top shape.  All traffic laws must be carefully followed to the letter. 
westslope

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Posted: Jul 5, 2016 - 11:28am

 porphyrius wrote:

How about a loud neon sticker they can apply to the barrel of their 9mm auto? That'd probably work better....

 
Or how about a t-shirt that screams..... I LOVE KILLING PEOPLE!  

or

AMERICANS:  HARDWIRED TO KILL.


Would those slogans work in favour of deterrence?   
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Posted: Jul 5, 2016 - 7:26am

 Red_Dragon wrote:

And then the vaunted "free-market" takes advantage of the demand. There's plenty enough suckage to go around.

 
which brings up another challenge

political definitions (having conversations with differing definitions is a recipe for frustration)

politically commandeering language to demonize is an industry in itself

because voting out of fear (or the lesser of two evils) will get us there

social conditioning might be the most powerful resource on earth
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Posted: Jul 5, 2016 - 6:56am

 miamizsun wrote:

yep

too many silly rules

so much stuff on the books

it's ridiculous

the violence starts at the top

we're soaking in it

if we actually focused more on moral and ethical behavior (non-aggression) things would be better

regards
 
And then the vaunted "free-market" takes advantage of the demand. There's plenty enough suckage to go around.
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Posted: Jul 5, 2016 - 6:49am

 Red_Dragon wrote:
It sort of goes without saying that the state is complicit; they make the laws that create the criminals.
 
yep

too many silly rules

so much stuff on the books

it's ridiculous

the violence starts at the top

we're soaking in it

if we actually focused more on moral and ethical behavior (non-aggression) things would be better

regards

Red_Dragon

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Posted: Jul 5, 2016 - 6:36am

 miamizsun wrote:

freeze that at 2:15 for the root cause

corporations aren't elected and they don't pass laws (see lobbying)

partnering with corrupt political gangs is very profitable but a side note

let's not forget the union involvement too

top down aggression and coercion has consequences

peace

 
It sort of goes without saying that the state is complicit; they make the laws that create the criminals.
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Posted: Jul 5, 2016 - 6:18am

 Red_Dragon wrote:

No bloody likely to happen: prisons are big money these days.

 

 
freeze that at 2:15 for the root cause

corporations aren't elected and they don't pass laws (see lobbying)

partnering with corrupt political gangs is very profitable but a side note

let's not forget the union involvement too

top down aggression and coercion has consequences

peace
westslope

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Posted: Jul 4, 2016 - 1:46pm

 Beaker wrote:

Yes!  Let's teach them reading comprehension skills!
To counter Muslim migrant sex assaults, Swedish cops giving girls “Do not molest me” bracelets
 In the aftermath of last year's asylum-related sexual attacks at the "We Are Stockholm" youth festival, the Swedish police are now launching a new campaign. Officers will give out bracelets with the text "Do not molest me" to girls attending this year's festival, of according to Dan Eliasson, head of the country's national police force.

I'd like to order the following bracelets: Don't rob me! Don't shoot me! Don't carjack me! Don't swear at me! Buy me a beer!

 
Reading is good.

As for the bracelet, it makes sense to me.  It is a tangible signal from the police that groping will not be tolerated and the police will take complaints seriously.
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Posted: Jul 4, 2016 - 9:15am

 westslope wrote:

Hei all,

What about training criminals to be more sophisticated and to avoid unnecessary violence?  Think about it:

"By taking this course, you will increase your expected profitability, decrease expected jail time and increase life expectancy.   We will show you how to avoid unnecessarily attracting the attention of 'the man, unnecessarily avoiding 'time with the man' and similar.  We will show you how to negotiate mutually beneficial deals with your competitors that eliminates costly violence and police scrutiny."

 
No bloody likely to happen: prisons are big money these days.

 
westslope

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Posted: Jul 4, 2016 - 9:08am


Hei all,

What about training criminals to be more sophisticated and to avoid unnecessary violence?  Think about it:

"By taking this course, you will increase your expected profitability, decrease expected jail time and increase life expectancy.   We will show you how to avoid unnecessarily attracting the attention of 'the man, unnecessarily avoiding 'time with the man' and similar.  We will show you how to negotiate mutually beneficial deals with your competitors that eliminates costly violence and police scrutiny."