R_P wrote: 
I'll address that since you went to all that trouble to bring that up. 

Yes, I bought a turntable and had it shipped from Japan two or so years ago.  Cost the same as a Samsung cell phone.  I did a life assessment for my remaining days knowing my limited physical abilities and financial resources.  Knowing that I will not be able to do much more than sit at home and kill time til it runs out, I invested in my hobby and passion, music to take me the rest of the way home.  I needed it in order to rip and accurately play grade my vinyl collection so I can sell it off to help make ends meet and still have the music to enjoy once the vinyl is gone.  I spent about 6 months researching what would be the best turntable for my money and meet my needs.  Then I put it on a credit card.  Again, I chose wisely.  Its an SL1200MK3, (this is the actual listing and the one I bought) which will hold its value and maybe increase in value should I need to sell it.  Just because I live in poverty as defined by the US Department of Education doesn't mean that I have to be stupid or am stupid. 

Would you begrudge me if I spent the same money on a Samsung Galaxy ?  I have a crappy free ZTE phone instead, you know the Chinese company that has been in the news lately, and a nice turntable.  Or I could have a nice phone that will lose its value in short order and no turntable and no way to make the most of my vinyl and remaining time on this planet.  I think I made an intelligent choice.  My circumstances establish my priorities and goals and what is important to me and what is less important to me.  One can still be poor and happy.

Yeah, I have cancer, but have you ever heard me complain about it ?  Other than I am stuck living where I do because I cannot move away from the care I get here in Cleveland ?  Yeah, I grew up in a magical place in a magical time and a trailer park in Ohio is a long, long way from there, but I am not bitter about it.  Could very easily be bitter, but bitterness is corrosive to one's health and well being and interferes with being happy.   I am happy that the place I ended up in was the best place for my most pressing needs.  People travel here from every corner of the world for the kind of health care I get.  Funny how life works.

Maybe I would have attained a higher financial status in life had I not made the decision to never have a job that involved random testing.  I put personal happiness in front of personal financial gain.  I walked that talk.  I also do not begrudge those that chose differently and put money first in their lives.  Just hope that they are happy and not mean or condescending to people that chose different ways to live their lives and have not been a burden to society along that life path.

I'll see you later over in the Ruminations thread.  I've been meaning to comment about that article for awhile and now that I have outed myself as being one of the class of people that is the subject of that article, I will rebut it, from the subject's viewpoint.  From a real card carrying subject of the article point of view.  You won't be able to say that I lack credibility on that now.

Remember, I didn't make this personal, just responded to those who did and civilly in the process. 

peace, out ...

Just a little note to encourage civility, tolerance, etc. — all of that good stuff that helps this little corner of the Internet discuss even *this* topic without having folks devolve into personal attacks against each other. 

 kurtster wrote:

As an emblem of identity, “deplorables” harnessed white anger and anxiety emanating not only from trailer parks, small towns, and the hollows of Appalachia, but also from well-off suburbs, gated communities, and quite a few swank downtown neighborhoods as well. It wasn’t merely the people who were already scorned as white trash, hicks, rednecks, yokels, or hillbillies. The anti-Semitic, pro-Trump troll account known as “Ricky Vaughn” was recently unmasked as a Middlebury College graduate who had worked as a consultant in New York while tweeting caricatures of Jews—hardly a member of the “forgotten white underclass,” but somehow identifying himself as such. The designation “deplorable” appealed, in other words, to whites who knew daily scarcity as well as those who experienced, in the French sociologist Pierre Bourdieu’s description, “freedom from necessity.” A label of disapprobation had become a defiant badge of honor.

 kurtster wrote: 
um, no it's not.

 islander wrote: 
I knew you would find a way to use this against me and will, but still put it out there anyway.  I was not disappointed.  You are predictable.

Yeah, the pie is only so big.  And I do have a problem with sharing it with those who jump the fence and try and take advantage of all the hard work that went to set these things up in the first place.  That makes me a bigot and a hypocrite. 

But there is no fear involved in my part.  You keep projecting that on me. 

Bullying: A bully may project his/her own feelings of vulnerability onto the target(s) of the bullying activity. Despite the fact that a bully's typically denigrating activities are aimed at the bully's targets, the true source of such negativity is ultimately almost always found in the bully's own sense of personal insecurity and/or vulnerability. Such aggressive projections of displaced negative emotions can occur anywhere from the micro-level of interpersonal relationships, all the way up through to the macro-level of international politics, or even international armed conflict.

Fear has nothing to do with it.  Nor does bigotry.  It is simple outrage.  And you find nothing wrong with the things that I do.

I have had a good life and have accepted my fate and have found a way to live with it as best as I can.  Hope you never experience the same kind of fall that I have because I seriously doubt your abilities to handle it.  Enjoy the life you have while you have it.  You never know what lies ahead, do you, Pollyanna ?

 kurtster wrote: 
I was calling out your bigotry and hypocrisy, not your health,income or living arrangements. 

This does give a little more window into your fear of having others infringe on the limited resources of government though, and also another healthy dose of your tone deafness and obliviousness of the fact that you are here complaining about the privileges that you lucked into but would happily deny to others. 

 islander wrote: 
Glad you enjoy disparaging impoverished white trailer trash like me for sport.  Glad I can make you feel better at my expense.

And yes, I do live in a trailer and according to the US Department of Education with whom I am dealing with getting my student loan forgiven because of my cancer, I live in poverty and have, ever since I got cancer.  That is 9 years and counting ...  So much for white privilege and ancestral rights.  

All the best, as always !

Oh, and my wife makes killer fish or chicken tacos.  Her enchiladas are to die for !  We stay at home and cook our own meals from scratch because we cannot afford to go out to eat.  Well maybe once a month at best and that's usually Chinese take out.

Hasta luego, muchacho ...

 kurtster wrote:  

Yeah, if life were simple again, and all those uppity people would just respect your ancestral right to have more of everything without having to bother walking around with all those 'others' trying to force their culture on you. Why can't you just enjoy a good old American Taco Tuesday in peace?

I WAS GOING TO VOTE DEMOCRAT 

...So I guess you could say I’m one of those heartland swing voters the Democrats should be reaching out to this fall. Instead, they’re totally blowing it with all this nastiness they keep spewing at the president and his administration. Because for me, it all comes down to the issues...

 Coaxial wrote: 
And that is why any answer that I have will be meaningless.  

Perhaps if life hadn't got so twisted that a lemonade stand is a big deal, we wouldn't be having problems like families are being torn asunder.

It's that frog in the pot, slippery slope thing ...

Enjoy your Sunday as well.

 kurtster wrote: 
Lemonade stands a big issue with you while families are being torn asunder? I just can't fathom where your heads is at Kurt. Have a marvelous Sunday sir, I'm out of here.

 Coaxial wrote: 
What this question ?

Coaxial wrote:
I said his gibberish was shtick. 

What you want America to be and what I want America to be are evidently completely different. 

Let's just take it all the way down to the lowest common denominator, eh ?  I would like to see an America where a kid can once again put up a lemonade stand on their front lawn and not need an attorney to deal with permits and regulations to do something that was once considered normal and harmless.  And Trump is the best and last shot at accomplishing this.

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 kurtster wrote: 
Brother...Just answer the question posed. Please.

 Coaxial wrote: 
Well we agree with that. 

What I see in that regard is Trump pulling down the curtains and exposing all these pols who are doing just that.  And that is one of the reasons I voted for Trump.  Remember, he was not bought and paid for before he starting running for POTUS and did not pick up any political debt along the way either.  He paid his own way.  Called his own shots.  That is why you see him making some weird decisions and then sometimes changing them.  He doesn't have anyone telling him we own you and you owe us and have to do it our way.  First time in my lifetime that we have a POTUS who wasn't owned and operated by someone before entering office, except maybe Kennedy and we know how that worked out.

 kurtster wrote: 
I'm still pretty apolitical but truly believe they are all filling their own pockets on both sides and the citizens be damned. That gibberish is indefensible, Kurt. HTF is that making America great?

 Coaxial wrote: 
To me, that quote, is what I would call shtick.  You would need to watch an entire speech of his to see how it is used as an interlude but I seriously doubt that you would ever watch any of his speeches for more than one minute, let alone the whole thing.  I watched Obama's entire speeches for 8 years as well as most POTUS' over the years whether or not I agree or disagree simply because I want to see the whole thing myself in its own context and delivery so I can form my own conclusions without the need to rely on sound bites and pundits for the skinny.  Not easy to do, but I do it.

I'm not trying to put any words in your mouth, but I'm going to guess that there is absolutely nothing he is or does or wants to do that you might agree with.  We simply disagree about Trump and always will.  

Was that quote put up to change anyone's mind about Trump ?  I didn't post that video to try and change anyone's mind on Trump.  Just put it up, as I stated, to counter the other stuff put up about Trump and his supporters by Trump detractors.

The polarity is deep and permanent.  Trump could nominate Obama to the SCOTUS and that would be shot down without hesitation by Trump detractors simply because Trump did it. 

There is no reaching out, no olive branches will ever be accepted. 

It's destroy Trump, no matter what it takes.  ITMFA , right ?

 kurtster wrote: 
Kurt, in all seriousness...I'm thinking you and Bokey probably communicate...I could be wrong there but anyway...Please, scroll down and read that direct farking quote and tell me how either of you can believe in this guy. How is that possible for anyone to take anything out of his mouth seriously? Seriously?

 kcar wrote: 
I put this up to counter all the stuff that only shows incivility by those who might support Trump.  Anyone who would pop in here for the first time and look around would think that there is no such thing as incivility directed at those who support Trump or that it is totally justifiable because it is directed at Trump and those who would support Trump.  Its nice to see that unlike you, there are some here who do find it objectionable. 

You only questioned me putting it up, not its content.

I haven't see anyone objecting to anything that calls for incivility towards Trump and his supporters, until now.  Why is that ?  I guess because most think it either doesn't exist or it is justified.

I am not afraid to denounce assholes who are attributed to be Trump supporters when brought up here should I see it.

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