Red_Dragon wrote:
What's not obvious is that it was a relatively small section of the population that were actual party members. There were others who might have approved as well but weren't 'card-carrying members':

The general membership of the Nazi Party mainly consisted of the urban and rural lower middle classes. 7% belonged to the upper class, another 7% were peasants, 35% were industrial workers and 51% were what can be described as middle class. In early 1933, just before Hitler's appointment to the chancellorship, the party showed an under-representation of "workers", who made up 30% of the membership but 46% of German society. Conversely, white-collar employees (19% of members and 12% of Germans), the self-employed (20% of members and 10% of Germans) and civil servants (15% of members and 5% of the German population) had joined in proportions greater than their share of the general population.^<144> These members were affiliated with local branches of the party, of which there were 1,378 throughout the country in 1928. In 1932, the number had risen to 11,845, reflecting the party's growth in this period.^<144>

When it came to power in 1933, the Nazi Party had over 2 million members. In 1939, the membership total rose to 5.3 million with 81% being male and 19% being female. It continued to attract many more and by 1945 the party reached its peak of 8 million with 63% being male and 37% being female (about 10% of the German population of 80 million).^<4><145>

Nazi members with military ambitions were encouraged to join the Waffen-SS, but a great number enlisted in the Wehrmacht and even more were drafted for service after World War II began. Early regulations required that all Wehrmacht members be non-political and any Nazi member joining in the 1930s was required to resign from the Nazi Party.

However, this regulation was soon waived and full Nazi Party members served in the Wehrmacht in particular after the outbreak of World War II. The Wehrmacht Reserves also saw a high number of senior Nazis enlisting, with Reinhard Heydrich and Fritz Todt joining the Luftwaffe, as well as Karl Hanke who served in the army.

The British historian Richard J. Evans wrote that junior officers in the army were inclined to be especially zealous National Socialists with a third of them having joined the Nazi Party by 1941. Reinforcing the work of the junior leaders were the National Socialist Leadership Guidance Officers, which were created with the purpose of indoctrinating the troops for the "war of extermination" against Soviet Russia.^<146> Among higher-ranking officers, 29% were NSDAP members by 1941.^<147>

In 1926, the party formed a special division to engage the student population, known as the National Socialist German Students' League (NSDStB). A group for university lecturers, the National Socialist German University Lecturers' League (NSDDB), also existed until July 1944.

The National Socialist Women's League was the women's organization of the party and by 1938 it had approximately 2 million members.

 Red_Dragon wrote:

yep.

If I were to find myself at a protest and I was on the side of the fence with people waving a swastika, I would jump that fence and find a new spot ASAP. 

 islander wrote:

 Red_Dragon wrote:




When someone tells you who they are....

Again, I know there are those that say we should use the word Nazi, because it cheapens the impact of the word. But to those people, I ask: what should we call these people?

 Red_Dragon wrote:

When someone tells you who they are, believe them. 

 Steely_D wrote:

Follow up...

Mike Johnson has now had the House adjourned for 72 of the last 84 days.

Epstein Shutdown.

 Red_Dragon wrote:

THEY RELEASED THE VILE AND DEEPLY INAPPROPRIATE SYMBOL!

US Capitol Police investigating ‘vile and deeply inappropriate symbol’ found in GOP lawmaker’s office

 NoEnzLefttoSplit wrote:

+1

Joni Askola nails it in five short skeets

"I love Hit!er" wrote Peter Giunta, the Chair of the New York State Young Republicans.

While running for NATIONAL Chair in June, Giunta wrote that “everyone that votes no is going to the gas chamber.” And said if he won, “I'm going to create some of the greatest physiological torture methods known to man. We only want true believers.”

“Can we fix the showers? Gas chambers don’t fit the Hitler aesthetic,” Joe Maligno, who previously identified himself as the General Counsel (a lawyer) for the New York State Young Republicans, wrote back.

In another exchange, Alex Dwyer, the Kansas’ chair, informed Giunta that one of Michigan’s Young Republicans promised him the group “will vote for the most right wing person” to lead the national organization.

“Great. I love Hit!er,” Giunta responded.

Dwyer reacted with a smiley face.
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The exchange is part of a trove of 2,900 pages of Telegram chats — obtained by POLITICO and spanning more than seven months of messages among Young Republican leaders in New York, Kansas, Arizona and Vermont.

Mixed into formal conversations about whipping votes, social media strategy and logistics, the members of the chat slung around an array of slurs — which POLITICO is republishing to show how they spoke. Epithets like “f——t,” “retarded” and “n—ga” appeared more than 251 times combined.

The chat offered an unfiltered look at how a new generation of GOP activists talk when they think no one is listening, says POLITICO.
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Peter Giunta made clear in his posts the kind of people he DIDN'T want in HIS Republican party, making references about monkeys, watermelon people and DEI pilots, and the other participants responded with comments in kind.

Just some kid, showing off for his gang at the playground?

Nope. This is a grown man. The Young Republicans covers age 18-40. These are not college frat boys, but actively involved, ambitious people networking for public office and the organizations and think tanks that support the Republican Party.

Peter Giunta has been New York Assemblyman Michael Reilly's chief of staff for over 5 years. No more. He just got fired.

Many of the chat members already work inside government or party politics, and one serves as a state senator.

Vermont Gov. Phil Scott called for state Sen. Sam Douglass to resign Tuesday, after his comments in the chat surfaced. The governor was joined by the state's top four house and senate Republican leaders.
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Peter Giunta has apologized. Sort of.

“I am so sorry to those offended by the insensitive and inexcusable language found within the more than 28,000 messages of a private group chat that I created during my campaign to lead the Young Republicans,” he said.

But then he went on to follow the Trump playbook, and accuse his accusers of planting FAKE NEWS.

“While I take complete responsibility, I have had no way of verifying their accuracy and am deeply concerned that the message logs in question may have been deceptively doctored.”

At least, the denial PROVES that he knows the remarks he is accused of making are reprehensible.

But we all know how this goes. The next Trump stage is to double-down - with fist pumps.
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JD Vance has already started, dismissing the months-long Telegraph conversation as a "college group chat" and saying, "I refuse to join the pearl clutching," according to USA Today.

Shortly after Vance's statement, New York Rep. Stefanik echoed the same sentiment in a post on X. She accused "Democrats hyperventilating about this latest Politico hit piece" of having a double standard when it comes to Democrats making violent or hateful comments.

Sure. As if someone ELSE doing the bad thing makes what YOU do OK. It's not OK, Elise. That is the kind of 5-year-old logic, integrity, and morals your own leader, Donald Trump, models.

In fact, here is Trump's response. Liz Huston, a White House spokesperson, rejected the idea that Trump’s rhetoric had anything to do with the chat members’ language.
“Only an activist, left-wing reporter would desperately try to tie President Trump into a story about a random groupchat he has no affiliation with, while failing to mention the dangerous smears coming from Democrat politicians who have fantasized about murdering their opponent and called Republicans Nazis and Fascists,” she said. “No one has been subjected to more vicious rhetoric and violence than President Trump and his supporters.”

Tell that to the family of Minnesota House of Representatives Speaker Emerita Melissa Hortman and her husband who were shot and killed, along with their dog. And Minnesota State Senator John Hoffman and his wife who were also shot while sheltering their daughter.

Tell that to Pennsylvania Gov. Josh Shapiro, whose residence was set on fire at 2 am during Passover, by a man armed with a sledgehammer and Molotov cocktails, while he and his wife and 3 children slept, along with 15 houseguests, including 3 more children.
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Elise Stefanik also tried to downplay the groupchat, like Vance, by saying, "Mind you, these were not even candidates for elected office."
EXCUSE ME. They were already serving IN public office, or FOR those in public office. These people plan to not only be Representatives, Senators, and even President, they also plan to mold the Republican party AND NATIONAL POLICY in the future.

And although Stefanik had her spokesperson make a public statement saying she was appalled, BOTH he and Stefanik made the caveat that "ONLY IF" the allegations "proved authentic" should the participants step down. Insinuating "fake news" as well.

Earlier this year, POLITICO reports, Stefanik accepted an award from the New York State Young Republicans, led by Peter Giunta. She lauded him for his “tremendous leadership” in August, and had her campaign and the political PAC she leads donate to that state organization.
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Meanwhile, the Young Republicans national organization board of directors responded on October 14, by saying, "We are appalled by the vile and inexcusable language revealed in the Politico article published today."

"Such behavior is disgraceful, unbecoming of any Republican, and stands in direct opposition to the values our movement represents. Those involved must immediately resign from all positions within their state and local Young Republican organizations. We must hold ourselves to the highest standards of integrity, respect, and professionalism," the organization said.
Peter Giunta came within 6 points of winning the National Chairmanship of that very organization.
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Sourced from POLITICO, The Hill, USA Today and VTdigger
Photos: Elise Stefanik, Donald Trump, JD Vance - Getty Images
Vermont State Sen. Sam Douglass by Glenn Russell/VTDigger
Peter Giunta participates in a CNN-POLITICO Grill discussion at the Republican National Convention by Rod Lamkey Jr. for POLITICO

It's like they're not even trying to hide it anymore:
"I believe that the Democrats will come to their senses soon, maybe it's after this No Kings thing," Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent said during a news conference Wednesday. "But No Kings equals no paychecks."

Very Fine People

Don't call them Nazis or fascists though

Wow. It's like, she's grown several brain cells.

Mike Johnson Warns Furloughed Government Employees May Never Get Backpay

something, something family values