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These penitent walls are all I've known
Songbird calling across the water
Inside my silent asylum
Oh don't leave me on my own
Left me standing all alone
Cut me down to size so I can fit inside
Lies that will divide us both in time
See the turncoat on his knees
A vagabond that no one sees
When a moon is throwing shadows
You can't save the ones you've caught in battle
Oh don't leave me on my own
Left me standing all alone
Cut me down to size so I can fit inside
Lies you try to hide behind your eyes
Don't leave me on my own
Don't leave me on my own
So cut me down to size so I can fit inside
Lies that will divide us both in time
Assuming for agricultural purposes -
What kind of tractor?
Green & Yellow for John Deere.
Orange for Case.
Modern Cases are red. Kubotas are orange.
My favourite album of 2014.
Every track is consistent with the thematic feeling, and well-done.
agreed!
I believe that's know as "The Tractor Factor".
It's bigotry to believe one to be superior to others whose races or cultures are different; it has nothing to do with what one wishes for. Perspective does change things — three- or four-point perspective enhances many pictures but generally requires a lot of erasing before the final drawing is done. Still, I would not consider people like Rene Descartes, Isaac Newton, Mahatma Gandhi, or Martin Luther King to have been "ignorant" or "lazy slave(s) to someone else's ancient ideas" because they were religious.
Why drag 'religion' in? bit spurious ... soo tired ...
As someone who really doesn't like much of Beck's work, this one is... above acceptable.
Likes and dislikes. To what mathematical function this reminds you of?
Personally, I think its just awful, and the same goes for the very similar and equally awful photo of Bruce Springsteen come to think of it. (re comment on Bruce's 'Worlds Apart' played 5 songs ago)
Goes well with the awful music then but more seriously the information comes from Wikipedia.
The photo of Beck you've got there, is that the best we can do?
Personally, I think its just awful, and the same goes for the very similar and equally awful photo of Bruce Springsteen come to think of it. (re comment on Bruce's 'Worlds Apart' played 5 songs ago)
Spent time last summer with my wife's family. They had never heard of Beck.
Of course, they don't listen to any music that isn't about a tractor, a pickup or the United States of 'Merica.
Reminds me of the old joke: what do you get when you play a Country Western song backwards?
You get your wife, your truck and your cow back!
Sliding down the distribution curve
Take a hike
It's hard to make predictions .... especially about the future.
UPDATE: ratings 2261
Rating: still 7.4
Keep sliding, you'll disappear up your own ...
2100 plus ratings average 7.4 lol YOU are in the minority! Take a seat!
Sliding down the distribution curve
Take a hike
Not sure why, but I detest this song (and others from this album)... Is it elevator music, completely dull without any edge or both? Thankfully I can switch RP playlists..
or just switch elevators going wherever up or down you're goin'...me, i don't mind the ride with Beck...
not too trippy
but enough to accent this Sunday noon in Feb
Now wait a minute, once you go tractor , you never go back
Assuming for agricultural purposes -
What kind of tractor?
Green & Yellow for John Deere.
Orange for Case.
Really with this untalented thing?
2100 plus ratings average 7.4 lol YOU are in the minority! Take a seat!
Listening to the lyrics, I'm reflecting on the lock-down.
Really with this untalented thing?
SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO good
This is so goooooooood. Emphasis on "good" not "so." Fixed it for ya'!
Good to hear from you, Proc -
I
suppose that one could use the term "bigoted" that broadly, but I think
there's a not-so-subtle difference between fanatical atheists who feel
more rational and learned than the believers around them (and need to
tell them so) and rational, learned people rejecting religion and/or
faith because they have no need of superstition for comfort or ancient
writings for behavior guidance. One becomes more rational and learned
through education, experience and experimentation, coupled with a
voracious appetite for substantiation of both facts and ideas and a mind
open enough to avoid simply rejecting out of hand any reasonably
plausible explanation of experiential phenomena.
Maybe I do
spend too much time examining it. Of course, when discussing belief
without plugging in the compassionate but slippery Perspective variable, it *is*
all crazy. I see superstition as the ugly child of fear and ignorance —
and it's a needy, whiny, negative little bastard that, if allowed to
grow unchecked in the human psyche, self-replicates and replaces
positive things like confidence, self-determination, skepticism and even
curiosity with more fear and ignorance. The quality of ones judgement
becomes tainted, decisions get made for the wrong reasons and people
suffer. Basing one's view of their place in the universe on a raft of
superstitions looks to me like an unhealthy, self-defeating, dangerous
way of going about things. For example, the Mayans had some interesting ideas. For that matter, so do suicide bombers.
Fear
and ignorance or confidence and knowledge? Lazy slave to someone
else's ancient ideas or a willingness to work hard to develop your own
brutally honest understanding of what life really is? Is it bigotry to
wish for a more rational, educated, compassionate, honest, open-minded,
forward-looking human race? Perhaps it is, depending on your
Perspective...
There are those people who use their
faith to inspire them to compassionate action. Even as one might
disagree with some parts of their faith (me & Billy Graham for
example), it works for the greater good. Alas, there are too many who
use their faith for judging and condemning (Franklin Graham for
example).
Discussions on theology probably won't be resolved on RP's comment board. It's more for making fun of progressive rock. Embarrassed that I liked it as much and as long as I did.
Yup. "Beautiful Boy".
I detest beck period
Best station.
SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO good
I like Beck and this piece, so, no issues there. Just that dopey way of wearing a hat...
I was thinking more of Brian Wilson. He does reach for those soaring Beach Boys / Beatles notes.
And he played this song.
L.RonDamnit! (that's me taking the 'lord's' name in vain, for Beck's sake)
Beck has been working his way up my list of favorite artists. Maybe it's his ability to sound different on each album. Maybe it's the feeling he's incorporating his personal life into his compositions. Maybe it's that I find nearly EVERY damn Beck track BillG plays highly enjoyable. Yeah....probably that last one. Long Live RP!! And the opposite for L.Ron's "teachings."
—Mark Twain
The odd thing is that I agree with both Twain and rdo, which whom I have little in common, on this. However, if rdo's artfully placed quote is meant to apply to Beck, I have to disagree (warned you about that commonality...). Beck is a stone genius, IMHO in a rank with Dylan, Strummer, Lennon, Prince, and (sigh) Jack White for his encyclopedic assimilation of rock'n'roll idioms. Guy's cool.
Good to hear from you, Proc -
I suppose that one could use the term "bigoted" that broadly, but I think there's a not-so-subtle difference between fanatical atheists who feel more rational and learned than the believers around them (and need to tell them so) and rational, learned people rejecting religion and/or faith because they have no need of superstition for comfort or ancient writings for behavior guidance. One becomes more rational and learned through education, experience and experimentation, coupled with a voracious appetite for substantiation of both facts and ideas and a mind open enough to avoid simply rejecting out of hand any reasonably plausible explanation of experiential phenomena.
Maybe I do spend too much time examining it. Of course, when discussing belief without plugging in the compassionate but slippery Perspective variable, it *is* all crazy. I see superstition as the ugly child of fear and ignorance — and it's a needy, whiny, negative little bastard that, if allowed to grow unchecked in the human psyche, self-replicates and replaces positive things like confidence, self-determination, skepticism and even curiosity with more fear and ignorance. The quality of ones judgement becomes tainted, decisions get made for the wrong reasons and people suffer. Basing one's view of their place in the universe on a raft of superstitions looks to me like an unhealthy, self-defeating, dangerous way of going about things. For example, the Mayans had some interesting ideas. For that matter, so do suicide bombers.
Fear and ignorance or confidence and knowledge? Lazy slave to someone else's ancient ideas or a willingness to work hard to develop your own brutally honest understanding of what life really is? Is it bigotry to wish for a more rational, educated, compassionate, honest, open-minded, forward-looking human race? Perhaps it is, depending on your Perspective...
Wow. That is a lot of words. It's dizzying how smart you are. It's like looking at Einstein's Math equations on the chalk board. How about this —> People need to feel connected to a higher power. The question is the connection. Lots of folks feel comfort in Jesus being their conduit or representative. It is something everyone can understand from the young, old and even folks born with mental capacity problems can know Jesus and also Jesus knows them. He is like a road out of the desert.... Why take that away from folks? How about the assurance of a poor widow who longs to see her husband again, or a Mother who lost a child wanting reunion in Heaven. Because you are smarter and think you know the answer? Read the bible yourself, looks like you have an affinity for words. The New Testament is probably shorter than the last book you read Open your mind.
P.S - I still think this sounds like a Brian Wilson tune....
I did. Well worth it.
Good to hear from you, Proc -
I suppose that one could use the term "bigoted" that broadly, but I think there's a not-so-subtle difference between fanatical atheists who feel more rational and learned than the believers around them (and need to tell them so) and rational, learned people rejecting religion and/or faith because they have no need of superstition for comfort or ancient writings for behavior guidance. One becomes more rational and learned through education, experience and experimentation, coupled with a voracious appetite for substantiation of both facts and ideas and a mind open enough to avoid simply rejecting out of hand any reasonably plausible explanation of experiential phenomena.
Maybe I do spend too much time examining it. Of course, when discussing belief without plugging in the compassionate but slippery Perspective variable, it *is* all crazy. I see superstition as the ugly child of fear and ignorance — and it's a needy, whiny, negative little bastard that, if allowed to grow unchecked in the human psyche, self-replicates and replaces positive things like confidence, self-determination, skepticism and even curiosity with more fear and ignorance. The quality of ones judgement becomes tainted, decisions get made for the wrong reasons and people suffer. Basing one's view of their place in the universe on a raft of superstitions looks to me like an unhealthy, self-defeating, dangerous way of going about things. For example, the Mayans had some interesting ideas. For that matter, so do suicide bombers.
Fear and ignorance or confidence and knowledge? Lazy slave to someone else's ancient ideas or a willingness to work hard to develop your own brutally honest understanding of what life really is? Is it bigotry to wish for a more rational, educated, compassionate, honest, open-minded, forward-looking human race? Perhaps it is, depending on your Perspective...
There are those people who use their faith to inspire them to compassionate action. Even as one might disagree with some parts of their faith (me & Billy Graham for example), it works for the greater good. Alas, there are too many who use their faith for judging and condemming (Franklin Graham for example).
It's bigotry to believe one to be superior to others whose races or cultures are different; it has nothing to do with what one wishes for. Perspective does change things — three- or four-point perspective enhances many pictures but generally requires a lot of erasing before the final drawing is done. Still, I would not consider people like Rene Descartes, Isaac Newton, Mahatma Gandhi, or Martin Luther King to have been "ignorant" or "lazy slave(s) to someone else's ancient ideas" because they were religious.
Every track is consistent with the thematic feeling, and well-done.
Of course, they don't listen to any music that isn't about a tractor, a pickup or the United States of 'Merica.
Which leaves them out of "The Perfect Country and Western Song" No Mama, beer, or prison.
Don't you just love that little clarinet sounding part at the end of the song that goes "Be-Be-Boop-Boop-Be-Boop-Be"?
Yup, got it... thanks. Obviously a hot button for me.
Don't you just love that little clarinet sounding part at the end of the song that goes "Be-Be-Boop-Boop-Be-Boop-Be"?
Proclivities wrote:
I suppose that one could use the term "bigoted" that broadly, but I think there's a not-so-subtle difference between fanatical atheists who feel more rational and learned than the believers around them (and need to tell them so) and rational, learned people rejecting religion and/or faith because they have no need of superstition for comfort or ancient writings for behavior guidance. One becomes more rational and learned through education, experience and experimentation, coupled with a voracious appetite for substantiation of both facts and ideas and a mind open enough to avoid simply rejecting out of hand any reasonably plausible explanation of experiential phenomena.
Maybe I do spend too much time examining it. Of course, when discussing belief without plugging in the compassionate but slippery Perspective variable, it *is* all crazy. I see superstition as the ugly child of fear and ignorance — and it's a needy, whiny, negative little bastard that, if allowed to grow unchecked in the human psyche, self-replicates and replaces positive things like confidence, self-determination, skepticism and even curiosity with more fear and ignorance. The quality of ones judgement becomes tainted, decisions get made for the wrong reasons and people suffer. Basing one's view of their place in the universe on a raft of superstitions looks to me like an unhealthy, self-defeating, dangerous way of going about things. For example, the Mayans had some interesting ideas. For that matter, so do suicide bombers.
Fear and ignorance or confidence and knowledge? Lazy slave to someone else's ancient ideas or a willingness to work hard to develop your own brutally honest understanding of what life really is? Is it bigotry to wish for a more rational, educated, compassionate, honest, open-minded, forward-looking human race? Perhaps it is, depending on your Perspective...
Good points, but "bigoted" is also an accurate way to describe someone who believes that their rejection of religion and/or faith automatically renders them more rational and learned than those who do not reject religion and/or faith. I've met plenty of fanatical atheists who are just as dogmatic, obstinate, and evangelistic as "people of faith". It may all seem crazy if one were to spend (too much) time examining it.
Good to hear from you, Proc -
I suppose that one could use the term "bigoted" that broadly, but I think there's a not-so-subtle difference between fanatical atheists who feel more rational and learned than the believers around them (and need to tell them so) and rational, learned people rejecting religion and/or faith because they have no need of superstition for comfort or ancient writings for behavior guidance. One becomes more rational and learned through education, experience and experimentation, coupled with a voracious appetite for substantiation of both facts and ideas and a mind open enough to avoid simply rejecting out of hand any reasonably plausible explanation of experiential phenomena.
Maybe I do spend too much time examining it. Of course, when discussing belief without plugging in the compassionate but slippery Perspective variable, it *is* all crazy. I see superstition as the ugly child of fear and ignorance — and it's a needy, whiny, negative little bastard that, if allowed to grow unchecked in the human psyche, self-replicates and replaces positive things like confidence, self-determination, skepticism and even curiosity with more fear and ignorance. The quality of ones judgement becomes tainted, decisions get made for the wrong reasons and people suffer. Basing one's view of their place in the universe on a raft of superstitions looks to me like an unhealthy, self-defeating, dangerous way of going about things. For example, the Mayans had some interesting ideas. For that matter, so do suicide bombers.
Fear and ignorance or confidence and knowledge? Lazy slave to someone else's ancient ideas or a willingness to work hard to develop your own brutally honest understanding of what life really is? Is it bigotry to wish for a more rational, educated, compassionate, honest, open-minded, forward-looking human race? Perhaps it is, depending on your Perspective...
When a rational, learned person, when confronted with all of that obstinance, prejudice and seemingly boundless hypocrisy, makes a considered, personal choice to simply not believe — only to find themselves treated intolerantly by those espousing "freedom of religion", it should be no surprise that they see a little crazy leaking out from around all those glass houses.
Good points, but "bigoted" is also an accurate way to describe someone who believes that their rejection of religion and/or faith automatically renders them more rational and learned than those who do not reject religion and/or faith. I've met plenty of fanatical atheists who are just as dogmatic, obstinate, and evangelistic as "people of faith". It may all seem crazy if one were to spend (too much) time examining it.
> What religion isn't crazy?
When a rational, learned person, when confronted with all of that obstinance, prejudice and seemingly boundless hypocrisy, makes a considered, personal choice to simply not believe — only to find themselves treated intolerantly by those espousing "freedom of religion", it should be no surprise that they see a little crazy leaking out from around all those glass houses.
What religion isn't crazy?
Bigoted much?
Every track is consistent with the thematic feeling, and well-done.
Of course, they don't listen to any music that isn't about a tractor, a pickup or the United States of 'Merica.
Now wait a minute, once you go tractor , you never go back
Of course, they don't listen to any music that isn't about a tractor, a pickup or the United States of 'Merica.
I do like it when Beck decides to write actual songs.
Chill please...
What religion isn't crazy?
Right now PBS has another Austin City Limits performance of his (theirs) you can stream for free.
Free? They would have to pay ME to watch that boring no-talent.
Right now PBS has another Austin City Limits performance of his (theirs) you can stream for free.
Or is it sociologist, I can't remember?
Herpetologist, mycologist, ophthalmologist?
Caught Beck live at an outdoor amphitheater last weekend, complete with full moon, and the show was just fabulous. The man is such an amazing artist. His bandmates were pretty spectacular too:) If you get a chance to see him, you won't be disappointed.
From what I've read, he doen't have any crazy Scientology ideas. His parents were Scientologists and that's what he grew up with, but it sounded to me like he doesn't really think about it much, but then again i read that a long time ago.
BTW what crazy religious ideas do you ascribed to?
Agreed, Sounds from this album are growing on me.
Nice -- very nice.
...but it's the perfect voice for these weak "songs" he keeps pumping out.
--Mark Twain
I agree, it's like Beck meets Brian Wilson.... Excellent track.
Wow, and I thought I was so cool for hearing the Beach Boys in this song. Then I opened this song comment page and find I have to get in line behind a rare picture of Brian Wilson looking relatively thin and healthy. The pants...well, not even the goat's too sure about those.
I previewed this album on Amazon and a lot of the song sounded great but a bit similar. May have to listen again and even buy the sucker. I give this a 7 or 8.
Maybe he just likes to sing?
I cannot understand with all the people who complain ENDLESSLY about OTHER singers here WHO SING JUST FINE OR EVEN GREAT, NO ONE complains about the one guy who cannot sing at all.
I agree, it's like Beck meets Brian Wilson.... Excellent track.
If it's true that this new album is essentially Sea Change Part 2, I'm all in. That's a fantastic collection.
agreed. I am glad has returned to this creative space.
Maybe he just likes to sing?
Or is it sociologist, I can't remember?
I heard the interview as well....props to Beck AND NPR!
If it's true that this new album is essentially Sea Change Part 2, I'm all in. That's a fantastic collection.
Boy, this is just a beautiful song.
I wish whole world would be like that.