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R_P Avatar

Posted: Oct 6, 2020 - 10:00am

 GullibleGullible wrote:

The orders are not immediately enforceable. Health officials have been working on ways to implement some of the proposals — namely guidelines for states to implement importation plans. But it's is unlikely that any could be finalized before the November presidential election, particularly since the most favored nations plan would not progress for at least a month.

President Trump claims he’s bringing down drug prices again, but the details of how are skimpy
The Trump administration floated a similar idea in 2018, which met with swift criticism from some of its usual supporters, such as Americans for Tax Reform, a right-leaning advocacy group that opposes tax increases. The criticism was marked by TV ads warning that this approach to drug costs was a step toward socialism. We found that claim to be Mostly False. The Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services estimated at that time the resulting savings from such a plan would be 30%, but it was never enacted.

Multiple experts questioned Trump’s claims about how much costs would come down as a result of the more recent proposal.

That’s in part because the full text of the executive order has not been published, and so classifying the president’s statement as true "requires a leap of faith," said Benedic Ippolito, a resident scholar who studies health care costs at the American Enterprise Institute.


And this isn’t the first time Trump has made this promise to the American people.

"He promised to lower drug prices as part of his campaign in 2016 and has done absolutely nothing of substance about drug prices at all while he’s been in office," Aaron Kesselheim, a professor of medicine at Harvard, wrote in an email.
Promises, promises...
Some pundits—especially those indisposed to the President—claim that these executive orders are merely “symbolic” without any policy impact. That isn’t true. The Trump administration was very close to finalizing the Part B IPI rule in 2019; all it would take to finish it is to change the formula to the most favored nation version—a relatively simple task. Once the rule is finalized, it will probably take another year for purchasers and others to organize around the new regulatory system.

The Part D rule, on the other hand, will take time for the Trump administration to develop and seek formal public comment. If Trump loses in November, and Biden wants to undermine the order (out of partisan pique or friendliness to the drug lobby), that portion of the order is at greater risk.


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Posted: Oct 6, 2020 - 9:17am

 R_P wrote:

Do you actually read anything you post, beyond the headline?

"In our analysis, we used prescription-drug market data from IQVIA’s MIDAS database.2 The data we examined cover the year 2018 and span 33 Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD) countries, including the United States.3 We did not restrict our analysis to prescription drugs, as certain insulins are available over the counter in some countries (including the United States)."

July 24-2020:
President Donald J. Trump Is Taking Action to Lower Drug Costs and Ensure That Americans Have Access to Life-saving Medications

Keep on sucking up the lies the liberal media sells you!  Sucker!


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Posted: Oct 6, 2020 - 9:07am


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Posted: Oct 5, 2020 - 9:27pm

So brave!


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Posted: Oct 4, 2020 - 11:05am

Mail-In Voter Fraud: Anatomy of a Disinformation Campaign
Our results are based on analyzing over fifty-five thousand online media stories, five million tweets, and seventy-five thousand posts on public Facebook pages garnering millions of engagements. They are consistent with our findings about the American political media ecosystem from 2015-2018, published in Network Propaganda, in which we found that Fox News and Donald Trump’s own campaign were far more influential in spreading false beliefs than Russian trolls or Facebook clickbait artists. This dynamic appears to be even more pronounced in this election cycle, likely because Donald Trump’s position as president and his leadership of the Republican Party allow him to operate directly through political and media elites, rather than relying on online media as he did when he sought to advance his then-still-insurgent positions in 2015 and the first half of 2016.


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Posted: Sep 30, 2020 - 9:46pm

 R_P wrote:


But no one is panicking, so there's that

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Posted: Sep 30, 2020 - 9:26pm


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Posted: Sep 29, 2020 - 7:06pm

Fact-Checking the First 2020 Presidential Debate

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Posted: Sep 28, 2020 - 9:53am


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Posted: Sep 22, 2020 - 2:45pm

Fact check: Trump's claim about whether coronavirus affects young people
Trump's claim:

President Donald Trump "falsely claimed" at a Monday night campaign rally that the novel coronavirus "affects virtually nobody" younger than 18 and mainly threatens seniors and people with underlying health conditions, according to the Washington Post.


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Posted: Sep 21, 2020 - 1:53pm

Trump claims he won 2016 popular vote ‘in a true sense’

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Posted: Sep 19, 2020 - 5:08pm

 R_P wrote:

He should go to PR without his Secret Service detail and tell that lie. 

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Posted: Sep 19, 2020 - 5:03pm

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Posted: Sep 19, 2020 - 12:32pm

Trump Wanted to Swap Puerto Rico for Greenland, Now Says He’s ‘The Best Thing That Ever Happened to Puerto Rico’
“Nobody even close,” the president lied

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Posted: Sep 16, 2020 - 9:05pm

In one of the most contentious exchanges of the night, Trump lied numerous times to a woman with a preexisting condition about his record on health care and preexisting conditions.

Trump claimed he is "not going to hurt preexisting conditions" even as he is currently waging a lawsuit to repeal the Affordable Care Act without any replacement plan. The act, also known as Obamacare, banned health insurance companies from denying coverage to people with preexisting conditions.

Trump then lied about having a health care plan that would be better than Obamacare and also protect preexisting conditions, even though he's been promising a plan for years and has still yet to release it.

"I have it all ready, and it's a much better plan for you, and it's a much better plan," Trump said, without giving any details about what that plan is or entails.

Stephanopoulos pointed out to Trump that he has promised such a plan numerous times but has never released it.

"I interviewed you in June of last year, you said the health care plan would come in two weeks. You told Chris Wallace that this summer it'd come in three weeks," Stephanopoulos said


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Posted: Sep 16, 2020 - 8:15pm

 rgio wrote:

 kurtster wrote:
There is if you have some form of COPD, especially emphysema, which is
...   ...
Still want to tell me that there is absolutely no downside to wearing masks ?
OK.  You're right...there are medical reasons for some not to wear masks.   There are no absolutes (ie Everyone with COPD is better off not wearing a mask), but I'll grant you some. 

I'd also suggest to you that for every person not wearing one "because of an illness", there are multiples who are wearing them because they are attempting to protect themselves from the virus and know they can remove the mask if then need to.  If you have breathing issues and need to be around others....do you fear the mask or the virus?

Accepting your medical reasons as an exemption, you agree that everyone else SHOULD be wearing them? 

I fear neither.  It's the risk of life in the big city.  Common sense tells me to stay away from things like sit down restaurants and bars for example, if I drank.  No more concerts and sporting events.  Is what it is.  Nothing goes on forever, including me.

Like I said, while I do have breathing issues, I do wear a mask when in public.  I also still use gloves with a shopping cart and have always used gloves for pumping gas ever since I first got sick with cancer.

I do agree that people should wear masks in public out of respect to others, at least until we get a widely distributed working vaccine.  But and this is a big but, even with a vaccine, we still don't know who has been vaccinated or not.  Many will refuse.

Now if you want to force people to wear masks, then we need a law.

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Posted: Sep 15, 2020 - 1:53pm

Trump confirms he wanted to assassinate Assad. In 2018, he denied it was even considered.
In the Fox interview, Trump criticized former defense secretary Jim Mattis, who has in recent months warned the country strongly against reelecting Trump. But in the course of making that case, Trump offered an odd claim: He said Mattis had effectively stood in the way of his efforts to assassinate Syrian President Bashar al-Assad.

“I would’ve rather taken him out,” Trump said. “I had him all set. Mattis didn’t want to do it. Mattis was a highly overrated general.”


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Posted: Sep 13, 2020 - 10:42am

Act II: Trump Versus the Virus

“People don’t realize we saved millions of lives,” Trump told the crowd. The President who, in the spring, during the depths of the pandemic, told governors to scrounge up the supplies they needed on their own, claimed to have masterminded “the largest national mobilization since World War II.” In fact, to this day, there is no effective national testing strategy, and even less of one for contact tracing. And the state, local, and public-health officials who were frantically trying to save lives had to push back against his dismissiveness, quackery, and conspiracy-mongering—even though, according to a Washington Post report on “Rage,” a new book by Bob Woodward, Trump was quite aware of how dangerous the virus was. (“I wanted to always play it down,” he said.) He simply chose to lie to the public, further undermining trust.

In North Carolina, Trump added, “We have achieved some of the great numbers, the case-fatality rates—we have the lowest of any major country in the world. People don’t know that because the fake news doesn’t want to write about it.” The United States does not have the lowest case-fatality rate of any major country, unless Japan and India aren’t major countries. And, by another measure—deaths per hundred thousand—the U.S. is doing very badly, and its relative position keeps getting worse. That’s because many countries in Europe that were badly hit now have the virus largely under control, and we do not. It’s true that there are scenarios in which far more Americans could have perished, for example if no distancing measures had been taken at all, or if Trump held indoor rallies at the rate he did before the pandemic. But too many did die, and too many are dying now.


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Location: West Jersey
Gender: Male

Posted: Sep 13, 2020 - 9:48am

 kurtster wrote:
There is if you have some form of COPD, especially emphysema, which is
...   ...
Still want to tell me that there is absolutely no downside to wearing masks ?
OK.  You're right...there are medical reasons for some not to wear masks.   There are no absolutes (ie Everyone with COPD is better off not wearing a mask), but I'll grant you some. 

I'd also suggest to you that for every person not wearing one "because of an illness", there are multiples who are wearing them because they are attempting to protect themselves from the virus and know they can remove the mask if then need to.  If you have breathing issues and need to be around others....do you fear the mask or the virus?

Accepting your medical reasons as an exemption, you agree that everyone else SHOULD be wearing them? 


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Posted: Sep 13, 2020 - 12:56am

Trump’s Epic Lies Become His Campaign Coronavirus Story Line
It would not seem possible that Donald Trump could sell himself as the hero of the coronavirus crisis, but, as he demonstrated on Tuesday evening, at the Winston-Salem airport, in North Carolina, he is not one to let either shame or the truth get in the way of a boast. The tally of Americans who have died of COVID-19, according to Johns Hopkins University, is now more than a hundred and ninety thousand—a figure that is almost certainly too low, given testing shortages—but the number that Trump was interested in was the crowd size. “I was told fifteen thousand people!” he said. An airport official told the Winston-Salem Journal that he guessed there were seven to nine thousand people there. Some of the people in the stand behind the President were wearing masks, printed with “MAGA” or “TRUMP,” but, judging from videos of the milling crowd and from press reports, few other attendees were. The President certainly was not. He told the crowd that he normally held rallies in indoor venues, “But because of, uh, China, the arenas aren’t working out too well, right? You can’t really do that anymore for a while.”

When Trump said “China,” he wasn’t just using a shorthand version of “China virus,” his xenophobic label for SARS-CoV-2. He was referring to what might be called the Trump 2020 coronavirus story line, which is as epic as it is fictitious. The synopsis, a version of which he offered at the rally in North Carolina, goes like this:

Act I: Paradise Betrayed

“We built the greatest economy in the history of the world, we were forced to close it because of the China plague that came in,” Trump said. Leave it to Trump to dream up a myth of lost greatness about not only America but also about his Presidency. His plan seems to be to use his great failing as an all-purpose excuse—the coronavirus did it, not me. A Trump drama, though, demands more than an unthinking virus—it requires a villain. And so, later in the speech, returning to the subject of China, he said, “We just have the plague. We’ve had other plagues sent by them. I wonder if they did it on purpose. What do you think, huh?” The crowd cheered its affirmation. Perhaps it makes sense to Trump’s supporters that the Chinese government would unleash a pandemic on its own population in a bank-shot attempt to bring him down. It does not, however, make any logical sense. (...)

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