Mueller has some "power", no doubt. He can subpoena; indict.  But he can neither convict nor sentence.

Can he sign an executive order mandating the deportation of thousands?
Can he order troops into combat, or even a drone strike?
Can he order trade tariffs or reject a treaty or agreement? Alter international alliances?
Is he the leader of a political party with a dedicated cadre of supporters?
And on...
Trump has nothing to worry about if he is innocent.  Why is he taking the actions of a (very) guilty person?

 Red_Dragon wrote: 
Capt’n Inarticulate at his best!

 kurtster wrote: 
Two words: Nuclear Codes. Bonus word: hyperbole.

I think it would be great if there was a permanent office to investigate any past or current crimes by administration officials. Now that would be a way to drain the swamp.

The 40 most breathtaking lines from Donald Trump's NRA speech
"These are real patriots, they really are, and they don't get the kind of adulation. But really, they do and we know that."

This has been a great discussion and lazy has addressed most of my concerns along the way.

Just a reminder.  Robert Mueller is the most powerful man in government right now.  His office has no limits or boundaries. 

He was given the power to investigate anything he wishes.  A specific crime was not specified in his commission which is contrary to DOJ rules. 

He has more power than the POTUS.  And this power has no basis anywhere in the Constitution.

Power corrupts and absolute power, which Mueller has corrupts absolutely.
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Federal judge accuses Mueller's team of 'lying,' trying to target Trump: 'C'mon man!'

A federal judge on Friday harshly rebuked Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s team during a hearing for ex-Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort – suggesting they lied about the scope of the investigation, are seeking “unfettered power” and are more interested in bringing down the president.

 Lazy8 wrote: 
You are casting your net wider than ever and are conflating the original premise which was that what Mueller is doing has parallels to what other normal unfortunate people are facing in the US on a frequent basis. Not true. Now you are throwing in targeted harassment, racial profiling and a grab bag of other enforcement abuses based on economic, race and ethnic discrimination. Is that what Mueller is engaged in with his investigation? Which ethic group is he targeting?

Seems like you you have jumped the tracks and are off on a new tangent altogether. Stop trying to equate what Muller is doing with the examples you cite above as it’s apples and oranges. BTW I am aware of racial and ethic bias and abuses that happen at the hands of law enforcement and those who do engage In it need to be punished.

 VV wrote:
The US has the largest fraction of population in prison in the world. The abuses I'm describing are documented in the links I posted (yeah, I know—a bunch of words! Who has the time?) and yes, these things actually happen. To some communities more than others; you sound oblivious enough to the problem that it's a fair guess you're not black or hispanic or a member of some suspicious religion. If you were these wouldn't be imaginary problems at all, but a fact of daily life.

Being oblivious to a problem doesn't mean the problem isn't real. If you've never been on that anvil, well...jolly good for you. That doesn't mean the smith isn't busy.

And if you find a surveillance device the agency that put it there will want it back intact. Maybe it's better you don't know.

 oldviolin wrote: 
That's cold as ice.

 ScottFromWyoming wrote: 
Almost? I guess we're in a different time zone.

 Proclivities wrote: 
As a matter of urgency or no?

 VV wrote: 
It's almost Miller Time but hey. The point is, if they dig thru your trash often enough, they'll find something that a judge will agree merits that search warrant. When we want to see this president humiliated in the worst way, it's tempting to forego the niceties of the Bill of Rights. I honestly don't follow what Bob Mueller's up to each day, but he doesn't seem like a guy who's all of a sudden going to get bloodthirsty and start a witch hunt. 

 Lazy8 wrote: 
Yes he's an imperfect president. That clearly is not in question.
 
What is in question is whether he or his administration has engaged in illegal activity before or during his time in office. But, I'm not even sure that is in question anymore. What is in question is whether the aggregation and extent of those activities and his connection to them is enough to bring him down. Seems that the more skeletons that are unearthed... the more people are trying to find reasons that unearthing them was unfair.
 
Sorry, but to try and equate this unique intense investigation as a situation which is happening to many innocent John & Jane Doe's across the US doesn't ring true to me.

Turds of a feather...

 Lazy8 wrote: 
Most of us will never spend time behind bars, but it's not because we're not guilty of a crime; it's because we haven't been gotten around to yet, or haven't made the right enemy.

Mark that down as the stupidest statement... ever. The reason most of us will never spend time behind bars is PRECISELY BECAUSE WE AREN'T GUILTY OF A CRIME. You've been watching too many Jason Borne conspiracy flicks. 

It seems you and I are residing in two different universes. Yours seems very George Orwellian. FYI, don't buy any Soylent Green.
 
Maybe I should be buying anti-surveillance equipment to scan for cameras and listening devices in my home? If I accepted your premise, I probably would spend most of my days inside my house curled up in the fetal position listening for police sirens.

 R_P wrote: 
Goddamit I spent good money getting that image out of my brain. YOU OWE ME BIG NOW

 VV wrote: 

 VV wrote:
That's a lame rationalization. Here, let me help you with that:

He's an imperfect president. Show me one that isn't.

See how that works? The impossibility of perfection is not an excuse to stay wrong.

Most of us will never spend time behind bars, but it's not because we're not guilty of a crime; it's because we haven't been gotten around to yet, or haven't made the right enemy.

 Proclivities wrote: 
Even the first one? 

 ScottFromWyoming wrote: 
The answer was in my post that you cut off when your reposted it. I don't want to be put out by having to wait outside and not access my house while they conduct their search or have to replace things that are misplaced afterward.
 
Like I said... if you are going to inconvenience (insult) me, you better have the paperwork that says you're entitled to.

Edit: I added the word (insult) because I think that would play into it too.   

 Proclivities wrote: