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Posted: Jun 11, 2014 - 10:23am


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Posted: Feb 18, 2014 - 9:09am

 Coaxial wrote:

They spent money to do a study? We could have told them that.{#Snooty}

 
3 Canadian universities did the studies - what is their interest?  Hmmm....an eradication of trolling?


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Posted: Feb 18, 2014 - 8:46am

 ScottFromWyoming wrote:

Signs? Signs?

 
They spent money to do a study? We could have told them that.{#Snooty}
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Posted: Feb 18, 2014 - 8:34am

 RichardPrins wrote:
Online ‘trolls’ show signs of being sadists, psychology study finds

The 'everyday sadist'
Internet “trolls” appear to have some extreme personality issues, based on the results of a new study.

They show signs of being sadistic and Machiavellian, says the recent study by Erin Buckels, a University of Manitoba psychology graduate student, and psych professors Paul Trapnell of the University of Winnipeg and Delroy Paulhus of the University of British Columbia.

“Much like the Joker, trolls operate as agents of chaos on the Internet, exploiting ‘hot-button issues’ to make users appear overly emotional or foolish in some manner,” they wrote.

The researchers described trolling, or commenting online, as the “practice of behaving in a deceptive, destructive, or disruptive manner in a social setting on the Internet, with no apparent instrumental purpose.”

And what they found via two studies were “similar patterns of relations” between trolling and what’s known as the “Dark Tetrad” of personality, which includes, among other things, sadism, psychopathy and Machiavellianism,” based on enjoyment ratings and identity scores.

Sadism showed the “most robust” association with trolling. (...)



 
Signs? Signs?
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Posted: Feb 18, 2014 - 8:33am

Online ‘trolls’ show signs of being sadists, psychology study finds

The 'everyday sadist'
Internet “trolls” appear to have some extreme personality issues, based on the results of a new study.

They show signs of being sadistic and Machiavellian, says the recent study by Erin Buckels, a University of Manitoba psychology graduate student, and psych professors Paul Trapnell of the University of Winnipeg and Delroy Paulhus of the University of British Columbia.

“Much like the Joker, trolls operate as agents of chaos on the Internet, exploiting ‘hot-button issues’ to make users appear overly emotional or foolish in some manner,” they wrote.

The researchers described trolling, or commenting online, as the “practice of behaving in a deceptive, destructive, or disruptive manner in a social setting on the Internet, with no apparent instrumental purpose.”

And what they found via two studies were “similar patterns of relations” between trolling and what’s known as the “Dark Tetrad” of personality, which includes, among other things, sadism, psychopathy and Machiavellianism,” based on enjoyment ratings and identity scores.

Sadism showed the “most robust” association with trolling. (...)


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Posted: Feb 4, 2014 - 8:02am

 cc_rider wrote:
 Brutal, Jrz. Brutal. Well played.
 
i love that so much
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Posted: Feb 4, 2014 - 7:55am

 ScottFromWyoming wrote:

  1. Band name
  2. Album name
  3. Song name


 
{#Lol}
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Posted: Feb 4, 2014 - 7:44am

 cc_rider wrote:
 Brutal, Jrz. Brutal. Well played.
 
it was the Nyquil talking
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Posted: Feb 4, 2014 - 7:41am

 JrzyTmata wrote:
but dad! he really loves us and deep down he's such a great guy. He doesn't really mean it. really! maybe we asked for it.besides, it's just a few bruises. we shouldn't push his buttons like we do. it's our fault. we can change him!!! we know we can!
  Brutal, Jrz. Brutal. Well played.

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Posted: Feb 4, 2014 - 7:27am

 ScottFromWyoming wrote:

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  2. Album name
  3. Song name


 

 

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Posted: Feb 4, 2014 - 7:22am

 mutepoint wrote:
  1. the implosion thing
  2. implodey-dope
  3. just before earning the punt.
 
  1. Band name
  2. Album name
  3. Song name

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Posted: Feb 4, 2014 - 6:53am

 MsJudi wrote:

It's looking that way, yep. Bill warned him more than once.

 
i didn't care for him going after alexandra for no reason, and i didn't like the way he just poked and poked and poked at people, but seemed that his complaints about this place were the very things he was doing himself...(that probably was worded wrong, but i know what i mean )

anyway...he like those before him chose his path.
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Posted: Feb 4, 2014 - 6:52am

 MsJudi wrote:

I am slow to reach a saturation point with people (as I've told others, it's not only the way I am in real life, it's also an aid to my blood pressure). My rule of thumb is: 1) kindness first,

{#Group-hug}

 
I usually am too. Both on the Innernets and otherwise. This was an exception for me, for some reason. I usually do kindness first too - it's just good "give what you want to receive" common sense. And it feels good.
 
 
 Thanks, Judi.
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Posted: Feb 4, 2014 - 6:32am

 lily34 wrote:

i think you and ov and kurt are all awesome and i will strive to be more like you.

i didn't back scroll enough, but i'm assuming gman got the can?

 
It's looking that way, yep. Bill warned him more than once.
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Posted: Feb 4, 2014 - 6:30am

 MsJudi wrote:
Every time someone is DD'd, we go through this same soul-searching analysis, does anyone else notice that? {#Lol} Did we do enough? Did we do too little? Are we a mean cabal? Are we a loose-fitting band of hippies? Poor Bill. Poor Rebecca. 

If there's a lesson to be had, I guess it's that the earth revolves until another soul finds us and wants to make trouble. They never think they're doing wrong. They always think we're persecuting them. They can't take responsibility for the seeds they've sown. We can't make them see reason. Things degenerate. Sometimes the problem resolves itself, sometimes Bill intervenes. Afterwards, we try again to figure out what went wrong and how to save the situation next time it crops up. But we can't. There are people wandering the world who are unhappy, or angry, or aggressive, or spoiling for a fight because they need something the world can't provide them. Some of them will find us.

I am slow to reach a saturation point with people (as I've told others, it's not only the way I am in real life, it's also an aid to my blood pressure). My rule of thumb is: 1) kindness first, 2) ignoring next, 3) action as a last resort. Sometimes it works for me, sometimes (like when someone calls my little girl a mass murderer), I lose my shit. But I try to follow the same pattern for everyone. Kindness first, everything else much, much later. RP actually taught me that, because when I arrived here more than ten years ago, I didn't have nearly that much self-restraint. {#Lol}

Anyway, my two cents and your Starbucks card will buy you a cup of coffee.

{#Group-hug}

 
i think you and ov and kurt are all awesome and i will strive to be more like you.

i didn't back scroll enough, but i'm assuming gman got the can?
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Posted: Feb 4, 2014 - 6:20am

 mutepoint wrote:

 

And I'll take "mean cabal" for $200 Alex.  

 
Band name.
MsJudi

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Posted: Feb 4, 2014 - 5:26am

Every time someone is DD'd, we go through this same soul-searching analysis, does anyone else notice that? {#Lol} Did we do enough? Did we do too little? Are we a mean cabal? Are we a loose-fitting band of hippies? Poor Bill. Poor Rebecca. 

If there's a lesson to be had, I guess it's that the earth revolves until another soul finds us and wants to make trouble. They never think they're doing wrong. They always think we're persecuting them. They can't take responsibility for the seeds they've sown. We can't make them see reason. Things degenerate. Sometimes the problem resolves itself, sometimes Bill intervenes. Afterwards, we try again to figure out what went wrong and how to save the situation next time it crops up. But we can't. There are people wandering the world who are unhappy, or angry, or aggressive, or spoiling for a fight because they need something the world can't provide them. Some of them will find us.

I am slow to reach a saturation point with people (as I've told others, it's not only the way I am in real life, it's also an aid to my blood pressure). My rule of thumb is: 1) kindness first, 2) ignoring next, 3) action as a last resort. Sometimes it works for me, sometimes (like when someone calls my little girl a mass murderer), I lose my shit. But I try to follow the same pattern for everyone. Kindness first, everything else much, much later. RP actually taught me that, because when I arrived here more than ten years ago, I didn't have nearly that much self-restraint. {#Lol}

Anyway, my two cents and your Starbucks card will buy you a cup of coffee.

{#Group-hug}
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Posted: Feb 4, 2014 - 5:09am

It's all semantics.  Unacceptable behavior is unacceptable behavior, call it whatever you like.
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Posted: Feb 4, 2014 - 4:25am

 mutepoint wrote:
His behaviour at times reminded me of Servo.  And look how we dealt with Servo.   Did we call Servo a troll?  I haven't looked, but I don't believe we did.

 
I went to TVoid and bed shortly after reading your post that lit this all up.

Some did call Servo a troll, but that's water under the bridge.  I called Servo a few things, but I believe troll was never one of them.  I've been called a troll now and then as have you.  I don't believe I've ever called anyone a troll.  IIRC, neither have you.  Its a two way street.  To me, troll is the innernet equivalent of the 'N' word.  If you give a rat's ass, the label hurts.  Some like to toss it around too freely and with little thought.

Whatever.  I gave it a shot and tried to offer gman some public counsel this time around and some pm counsel a long time ago.  It clearly hurt to see him go after Alexandra the way he did.  Totally beyond the pale.  I read the comment in the bug thread that apparently lit the fuse and those that followed.

He got what he wanted in the end.  As he has shared with us, he's had a rough life to this point taking him at face value.  No justification for what just transpired, but it has been recognized in this post mortem, so there is that.  Flight or fight.  He chose the latter. 

In the end, its sad anyway its sliced.  Mean and trollish, heavy on the ish, but not a true troll, imo.


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Posted: Feb 3, 2014 - 9:10pm

 bokey wrote:

I don't know to respond here Bro.You and others have responded to me with kindness quite often.

Couldn't we have not done the same for him?

Did we fail,or could we not have tried to help?

 
 
 
Bokey, there's such a difference between how you established yourself here and how he did.
 
You didn't come waltzing in (and I don't care how long he had been posting - he was not really a "regular" until last year), acting WAY too familiar with people, like you'd known them forever, making borderline creepy/threatening comments and then either putting an emoticon after them, as if that would make it better, or deleting them because you knew how over the line they were.
 
You established a place for yourself, became one of RP's renowned baseball fans, had honest conversations about your life, and acted with humility most of the time. If you ever lashed out, you apologized later. You kept it real.
 
That guy.....he came in with an attitude up to here; an air of entitlement, if you will, butting into conversations with his two cents like he owned the place (some of which left people scratching their heads, all WTF was that?) He lost me the day he told this piece of his history about being bullied in the past, and what he did about it. In so many words, he said he "systematically hunted down" those who bullied him, and beat the crap out of them. He said something like sometimes violence was necessary. Whether any of it was true or not, who knows (or cares) but it was downright sociopathic-sounding. And when I spoke up about how creepy I thought that was, in addition to some other comments he'd made that were demeaning to women.....he went off on me.
 
And that condescending way he'd deal with people who called him out? "Think about it for awhile....maybe it will come to you. Or not." That's where it was hard to ever take him seriously again. His insults reminded me of preschoolers (You're dumb. You're stupid. I'm going home!), no offense to preschoolers who haven't learned any better yet. He was trying to be so mean, but they just made me laugh they were so juvenile.
 
So if mutepoint wants us to stay away from labels, fine. But his behavior was trollish - always looking to start fights or prove someone deficient or bestow some kind of pardon on people like he was the effing king of the land ("I like you, so I'll let this one slide...")
 
As far as I'm concerned, help is not what he wanted. People dealt with him reasonably, but he wasn't having any of it. His behavior was textbook "acting out" to stir up what was probably something very familiar in his life.
 
 
I'm with buzz. We don't need that kind of toxic here. Behaviors like that have driven lots of people I love away from here - when it is supposed to be about the music. BillG should not have to put up with shit like that - he's got better things to do with his time by making all this possible for us. Our friendships and unions are an amazing byproduct of that.
 
And I'd like to think I'm a pretty compassionate person - maybe not anywhere near the Dalai Lama (or oldviolin), but I'm trying daily - but I've got limits.
 


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