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And in the wars I used to play
And I've called the tune
To many a torture session
Now they say I am a war criminal
And I'm fading away
Father please hear my confession
I have legalised robbery
Called it belief
I have run with the money
I have hid like a thief
Re-written history
With my armies and my crooks
Invented memories
I did burn all the books
And I can still hear his laughter
And I can still hear his song
The man's too big
The man's too strong
Well I tried to be meek
I have tried to be mild
But I spat like a woman
And I sulked like a child
I have lived behind walls
That have made me alone
Striven for peace
Which I never have known
And I can still hear his laughter
And I can still hear his song
The man's too big
The man's too strong
Well the sun rose on the courtyard
And they all did hear him say
'You always was a Judas
But I got you anyway
You may have got your silver
But I swear upon my life
Your sister gave me diamonds
And I give 'em to your wife'
Oh Father please help me
For I have done wrong
The man's too big
The man's too strong
In May 1986, I got dumped by my longtime boyfriend, and I was fairly despondent. The guy across the hall from me had just bought one of the very first Sony Discman players. He brought it over, with this album in it, for me to listen to. I remember listening to that album over and over, and this song in particular, and thinking I'd never heard anything so mind-blowing in my life. I still have to turn it up every time it comes on.
oh I really hope you are still friend with that guy to this day, that is definitely someone worth making friends with.
2nd, Who ever did the slide show for this song REALLY missed the point. Should have been 80s guys with slicked back hair and expensive suits and such, not weightlifters.
Love you man! The kids in the car next door may get a chuckle as they watch my spastic undulations, but I (without a care) will continue to express my love for the music . . grey hair not withstanding!
WORD (but with just a grey beard)
Cynaera. Just one more thing to love about RP.
I never really attributed this song to one particular person - I sort of figured it was a metaphor for Satan, or politics in general. I was young and stupid, though - I just loved the SONG and didn't read much into it. That gorgeous National Steel guitar (I know something about it, but I can't remember what, at this point - I think it has something to do with Mike Nesmith, late of The Monkees.)
Ack. Love Mark Knopfler, (has anyone heard his brother David's song, "Whispers of Gethsemane"? It's from an album called "Lips Against the Steel" I think that's the title - it was pulled from the market before I could latch onto it, but it was rather phenomenal...)
"Brothers In Arms" is everything an audiophile could hope for in a CD, in my opinion.
Listening to the song today, with what's going on in Ukraine made me think of one person it could apply to...there will always be one or more. The song is just great as is a lot of Dire Straits' work.
I completely agree. Dire Straits has far more staying power than the Beatles for me.
Of course your opinion is very important while discussing these bands.
In memory of those who fighted... just for the dust.
Great Album👏 The B Side was so different but as good as the A Side
Yep, B Side has the title track ... which, IMHO and in one song, out shines all the commercial appeal of the A Side.
I can also offer for all those waxing poetic about how good the CD sounded the LP still sounds stunning to this day as well.
Ha! I just started posting this again and realized that I had already told the story. Strong memory for sure.
That's OK. It's a story worth re-telling. And for those of us who are reading it for the 1st time, good story.
Miss u, Dad.
What a masterpiece of an album.
Love you man! The kids in the car next door may get a chuckle as they watch my spastic undulations, but I (without a care) will continue to express my love for the music . . grey hair not withstanding!
Ha! I just started posting this again and realized that I had already told the story. Strong memory for sure.
I certainly hope you found a new girlfriend ;-)
Similarly, when I bought my first CD player at Circuit City (RIP), I brought Brothers in Arms to see if this new technology was for me. Ironically a friend with a high end stereo had this on vinyl which sounded even better but that is another debate.
Love his pronunciation.
Didn't happen. Palin's evil twin-brother was elected president.
A great live band for sure.
Live music is better.
Bumper Stickers Should Be Issued.
Seven years ago, the US economy was shedding 400K jobs a month. Today, the unemployment figure is under 5%; factoring in under-employment, people who have left the market due to discouragement, and part-timers who are looking for full-time, the figure is 9%. The only people who still using your figures and grousing about the B....K guy in Washington are Limbaugh listeners. I do take a look at the rest of the world politically, Obama looks like a genius, and W is still quiet in Dallas.
TerryS wrote:
"Yes, Bush was a terrible President. But he's gonna look like George Washington next to Obama after he bankrupts this country and turns the dollar into so much toilet paper. Come talk to me again when unemployment is crowning 15%."
September unemployment numbers say 5.1%, so it seems we have a while to wait. Plus the dollar is perhaps the strongest currency around.
what a difference a few years post rhetoric can make.
Factor in under-employment, people who have given up looking for work, baby-boomers who have retired and actual real family income stagnation and it's not so pretty. 8 years of under 2% of GNP growth is the worst since the great depression. Only 15% of the population feels that Obamacare has helped anyone. The dollar is stronger because the rest of the world is in even worse shape than us.
Take a look at the rest of the world politially and we are far worse off under Obama - And W does look like George Washington compared to him... Although I do love all the racial healing. Factor in under-employment, people who have given up looking for work, baby-boomers who have retired and actual real family income stagnation and it's not so pretty. 8 years of under 2% of GNP growth is the worst since the great depression. Only 15% of the population feels that Obamacare has helped anyone. The dollar is stronger because the rest of the world is in even worse shape than us.
Take a look at the rest of the world politially and we are far worse off under Obama - And W does look like George Washington compared to him... Although I do love all the racial healing.
Seven years ago, the US economy was shedding 400K jobs a month. Today, the unemployment figure is under 5%; factoring in under-employment, people who have left the market due to discouragement, and part-timers who are looking for full-time, the figure is 9%. The only people who still using your figures and grousing about the B....K guy in Washington are Limbaugh listeners. I do take a look at the rest of the world politically, Obama looks like a genius, and W is still quiet in Dallas.
"Yes, Bush was a terrible President. But he's gonna look like George Washington next to Obama after he bankrupts this country and turns the dollar into so much toilet paper. Come talk to me again when unemployment is crowning 15%."
September unemployment numbers say 5.1%, so it seems we have a while to wait. Plus the dollar is perhaps the strongest currency around.
what a difference a few years post rhetoric can make.
Factor in under-employment, people who have given up looking for work, baby-boomers who have retired and actual real family income stagnation and it's not so pretty. 8 years of under 2% of GNP growth is the worst since the great depression. Only 15% of the population feels that Obamacare has helped anyone. The dollar is stronger because the rest of the world is in even worse shape than us.
Take a look at the rest of the world politially and we are far worse off under Obama - And W does look like George Washington compared to him... Although I do love all the racial healing.
MMBAIL wrote:
I completely agree. Dire Straits has far more staying power than the Beatles for me.
MMBAIL wrote:
"Yes, Bush was a terrible President. But he's gonna look like George Washington next to Obama after he bankrupts this country and turns the dollar into so much toilet paper. Come talk to me again when unemployment is crowning 15%."
September unemployment numbers say 5.1%, so it seems we have a while to wait. Plus the dollar is perhaps the strongest currency around.
what a difference a few years post rhetoric can make.
I'm no doctor, but that doesn't sound very healthy.
- Couldn't have said it better myself...
Well said/quoted.
- Couldn't have said it better myself...
ps 30 years ago nearly. Good God.
Interesting. You think the Beatles are in a higher league than Dire Straights? Is that an official league that we must all subscribe to? Or is it something you made up on your own?
Just sayin' - No offence :)
Hmmm... play MORE Dire Straits, please!!! :)
Sounds about right. Certainly not my favorite song of theirs, but still a very solid offering.
So many of their songs have become dated - overplayed so much, we cringe when we hear them.
This song, however, captures the essence of the band like no other they did. Ironic considering it wasn't a popular one overall.
Me too<3!
I remember hearing this for the first time in the 80's, amidst the overwhelming stench of hair bands and whiney synth-pop, and thinking "Wow. Maybe rock-n-roll isn't dead yet!"
Miss you so much, Cynaera...
everybody in my humble churches loves this song... but I digress...
Science is humble. It knows what it knows and it knows what it doesn’t know. It bases its conclusions and beliefs on hard evidence -- evidence that is constantly updated and upgraded. It doesn’t get offended when new facts come along. It embraces the body of knowledge. It doesn’t hold on to medieval practices because they are tradition...
Huh?
Yeah, I did also. I bought a CD player at what was then Circuit City and got this disc to test it out. Ironically, I heard this on vinyl at a friend's house who had a high end audio system and the vinyl blew the CD away in an AB comparison.
I second that emotion
As a guitar player, I have strived for his tone. Unsuccessfully.
Most self-help books, religions and life mentors deliver the same basic message:
1. Don't be a Dick.
2. If you are a Dick, Stop!
3. If you can't stop, then be the best Dick you can be.
If you substitute "biggest" for "best" in rule 3, you've pretty much summed Dick up.
Oh I disagree, this album is not only their best, but one of the best albums of the 80's!
What a great band they were!
Oh I disagree, this album is not only their best, but one of the best albums of the 80's!
Ack. Love Mark Knopfler, (has anyone heard his brother David's song, "Whispers of Gethsemane"? It's from an album called "Lips Against the Steel" I think that's the title - it was pulled from the market before I could latch onto it, but it was rather phenomenal...)
"Brothers In Arms" is everything an audiophile could hope for in a CD, in my opinion.
Yeah I think this was the second CD I ever listened to (After Digital Domains, some CD that was just a mix of different cool sounds to show off the purity of CD sound). My brother had blown a huge amount on a giant Pioneer stereo system with speakers as big as the monolith in 2001 a Space Odyssey, and a few of us sat (basically between the two speakers) in his dorm room and listened to this CD. It might be a little dated now but at the time it was just the best damn CD in the world, from lyrics to composition to production. Of course I didn't know any of that then, I just new it was cool.
Time to move on.
What a great band they were!
Twice.
Easy Fast Eddie...what you mean to say is, "Knopf it off already!"
Amen!
You can't even see "enough with" from here.
Easy Fast Eddie...what you mean to say is, "Knopf it off already!"
I tired to tell him it's not even their best song! If only I'd had RP at my disposal (no internet up there), I could have just shown him this tidy list of awesome DS songs!
Ack. Love Mark Knopfler, (has anyone heard his brother David's song, "Whispers of Gethsemane"? It's from an album called "Lips Against the Steel" I think that's the title - it was pulled from the market before I could latch onto it, but it was rather phenomenal...)
"Brothers In Arms" is everything an audiophile could hope for in a CD, in my opinion.
This is neither a long political rant nor does it have the obligatory picture of one 'Dick Cheney'. I'm afraid your comment may fail to rise above the political clatter. I will help you out with some incendiary words...long live Dick Cheney!
Hmmmmm, i believe you quoted the wrong post....
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This is neither a long political rant nor does it have the obligatory picture of one 'Dick Cheney'. I'm afraid your comment may fail to rise above the political clatter. I will help you out with some incendiary words...long live Dick Cheney!
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Bush the Bogeyman is gone!
God, how do some people find the time to write long political rants on a radio station discussion board? Moreoever, rants only applicable and indeed understandable by folk in one country. Rant away by all means, but keep it a bit briefer next time, please. And those who reply, please don't keep quoting the goddamn picture!
Oh, and the song refers to war criminals all over, not just one or two individuals in that class. Please try to see the wood rather than the trees. And do enjoy the sounds, which are, as ever with Mark Knopfler, classily smooth.
Most self-help books, religions and life mentors deliver the same basic message:
1. Don't be a Dick.
2. If you are a Dick, Stop!
3. If you can't stop, then be the best Dick you can be.
Bush the Bogeyman is gone!
Live in the now!
By the way, doesn't it bother you that, for all the Cheney/Blood for Oil/Halliburton talk, Al Gore is actually worth MORE than Cheney today, even though Gore was pretty much bankrupt after the 2000 election?
How does a politician become worth over $100 million dollars in a few short years when your only talent is, well...not having any talent?
Anyway, Obama seems to have spent more than the entire Iraq War in just a few months, and just wait for the bill after a couple of years. You know, I looked up that 'Oil for Clunker' program. What a joke! This is supposed to save the planet? You can trade in a 2.5L Volvo Station wagon and have Mr. Taxpayer cough up $3500 towards your brand new V8 6.2L Chevy Camaro! No surprise. Probably like the other legislation this administration has kicked upstairs without reading it.
Yes, Bush was a terrible President. But he's gonna look like George Washington next to Obama after he bankrupts this country and turns the dollar into so much toilet paper. Come talk to me again when unemployment is crowning 15%.
Bone wrote:
"I swear upon my life, your sister gave me diamonds... and I gave 'em to your wife."
might be appropriate for this smirking turd.
That track is among my favorite of the album.
papaman wrote:
Is there a way to remove these gigantic pictures of the massive asshole of history and his sick perverted "smile"?
One of the greatest albums of all time!
daigoro wrote:
Bush the Bogeyman is gone!
Live in the now!
By the way, doesn't it bother you that, for all the Cheney/Blood for Oil/Halliburton talk, Al Gore is actually worth MORE than Cheney today, even though Gore was pretty much bankrupt after the 2000 election?
How does a politician become worth over $100 million dollars in a few short years when your only talent is, well...not having any talent?
Anyway, Obama seems to have spent more than the entire Iraq War in just a few months, and just wait for the bill after a couple of years. You know, I looked up that 'Oil for Clunker' program. What a joke! This is supposed to save the planet? You can trade in a 2.5L Volvo Station wagon and have Mr. Taxpayer cough up $3500 towards your brand new V8 6.2L Chevy Camaro! No surprise. Probably like the other legislation this administration has kicked upstairs without reading it.
Yes, Bush was a terrible President. But he's gonna look like George Washington next to Obama after he bankrupts this country and turns the dollar into so much toilet paper. Come talk to me again when unemployment is crowning 15%.
Bone wrote:
"I swear upon my life, your sister gave me diamonds... and I gave 'em to your wife."
might be appropriate for this smirking turd.
That track is among my favorite of the album.
papaman wrote:
Bush the Bogeyman is gone!
Live in the now!
By the way, doesn't it bother you that, for all the Cheney/Blood for Oil/Halliburton talk, Al Gore is actually worth MORE than Cheney today, even though Gore was pretty much bankrupt after the 2000 election?
How does a politician become worth over $100 million dollars in a few short years when your only talent is, well...not having any talent?
Anyway, Obama seems to have spent more than the entire Iraq War in just a few months, and just wait for the bill after a couple of years. You know, I looked up that 'Oil for Clunker' program. What a joke! This is supposed to save the planet? You can trade in a 2.5L Volvo Station wagon and have Mr. Taxpayer cough up $3500 towards your brand new V8 6.2L Chevy Camaro! No surprise. Probably like the other legislation this administration has kicked upstairs without reading it.
Yes, Bush was a terrible President. But he's gonna look like George Washington next to Obama after he bankrupts this country and turns the dollar into so much toilet paper. Come talk to me again when unemployment is crowning 15%.
Bone wrote:
"I swear upon my life, your sister gave me diamonds... and I gave 'em to your wife."
might be appropriate for this smirking turd.
That track is among my favorite of the album.
papaman wrote:
My God! The lyrics do fit.
I'm just and ageing drummer boy
And in the wars I used to play
And I've called the tune
To many a torture session
Now they say I am a war criminal
And I'm fading away
Father please her my confession
I have legalised robbery
Called it a belief
I have run with the money
And hid like a theif
I have re-written history
With my armies and my crooks
Invented memories
I did burn all the books
"I swear upon my life, your sister gave me diamonds... and I gave 'em to your wife."
might be appropriate for this smirking turd.
That track is among my favorite of the album.
papaman wrote:
Yes. do a Wiki on first CD ever!?